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[*] Post 511335 posted on 3-2-2018 at 10:52 Reply With Quote
Intercessory prayer for the alleviation of ill health



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AUTHORS' CONCLUSIONS: It is not sensible to interpret any of the interesting results with great confidence. However, for women hoping for successful IVF treatment there are some data suggesting a favourable outcome of prayer but these data are derived from only one of the smaller trials. On the other hand, one of the larger studies suggests that those undergoing operations may not wish to know of the prayer that is being offered on their behalf. Most data are equivocal. The evidence presented so far is interesting enough to justify further study into the human aspects of the effects of prayer. However it is impossible to prove or disprove in trials any supposed benefit that derives from God's response to prayer.



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[*] Post 511340 posted on 3-2-2018 at 20:22 Reply With Quote


Many years have passed since I taught statistical analysis at university level. One very important aspect of statistical analysis that people without professional background in the area may not know, is that confidence is a specific, measurable mathematical concept. The confidence level that the variable for which one is testing has produced a measurable result increases with the number of subjects tested, in a way that can be computed. (To reverse the way of putting it: a smaller subject group has a greater possibility of giving results that are atypical. E.g. if you use a small random sample, there is greater likelihood that you have, by chance, grabbed ones who are not representative of the whole population.)

As a Christian informed by the Scripture, I would expect that generic prayer studies having to do with the human effects of prayer would not give uniform results, because of factors related to God's response. One factor that I would expect to be important: are the prayers addressed to the Biblical God of Christianity, or to some other god? The Scriptures declare that Yahweh does not like others to get credit for what He does. (I have always understood this to mean that the good He does for people bears good fruit when people recognize His love and draw closer to Him with thankful hearts.) Jesus teaches that He, Himself, is the only way to the Father. That sounds like prayers of those who reject Him will not connect to the Father. Jesus also spoke of praying to the Father in His name. And, He taught that one is to pray, believing.

And, of course, there is the fact that the Lord does not always favor healing, in this life. Sometimes, for believers, the healing comes in heaven, and their bodies may not be healed until their resurrection.
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[*] Post 511341 posted on 3-2-2018 at 20:29 Reply With Quote
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I recall one of my undergraduate professors mentioning a study in which people prayed for some plants, while the control group of plants did not have people praying for them. The prayed-for group did better.

He remarked that, if he had set up the study, he would have liked to have set up a third group of plants, which people would curse, and observe whether the group which was cursed had any measurable differences.
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