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Gone over to Linux Mint.
Katzy - 16-8-2015 at 16:43

On our laptop, anyway. If updates to W7 take it the way of W10, we want nothing to do with it. So, we're using our slightly aged laptop, to get used to it.

Anything I ought to be aware of?

JackInCT - 16-8-2015 at 23:19

Originally posted by Katzy
Anything I ought to be aware of?

I have 7 (NO! not a typo) Linux Distros (each on its own HD), and Mint is one of them: I periodically hook up each of them in succession to my primary PC (simply because it's the fastest CPU) [and disconnect my Win 7 HD to prevent Murphy's Law from rearing its ugly head].

About my one and only criticism of ANY of the Linux distros is "muscle memory", i. e., I keep having to slap my face to keep my attention span in clear focus since I auto'navigate' (sleepwalk) ALL the time through my Win OSs, and "expect" to be able to do the same keystrokes, etc. with Linux, and of course that ain't going to happen. Linux is good for ye olde gray cells exercise to prove it really is mind over matter to do respectable work with Linux once the grey cells remember what they once learned.

You've made a good choice with Mint and you, functionally, should not see any substantive difference from any Win OS.

LSemmens - 17-8-2015 at 03:05

I've changed over and reverted several times over the years. I'd love to say that I was a pure Linux user, however..... I provide support for Windoze machines, so, I must know Windoze. And there are some things that do not have a realistic Linux equivalent. Try and get a dual monitor setup working with different resolutions and you'll see what I mean, especially with nVidia or legacy cards. I also use Access a lot and Base does not even come close. SQL is a viable alterntive, but..... These days, I need a box to work, I don't have the time to muck around (much as I'd like to). Linux also did not seem too happy talking to my Windoze network without a LOT of jigger pokery. Have fun with it, Katzy, I hope it serves you well.

Question, Jack: 7 distros? Begs the question, why? Are they all used regularly, or is it just an interest?

Katzy - 17-8-2015 at 10:50

I had one hell of a battle, to get the thing to go online. It was fine, wired. But, getting it to go wireless was brutal. It involved doing things in the terminal that were totally alien, when you're used to the CLI on the Amiga and the crap that is M$DOS.

But, hey... I got there, in the end. Pity the website I found doesn't seem to me in my history... :(

Gonna have a serious play, now, to see if I can break it. :D

JackInCT - 17-8-2015 at 13:11

Originally posted by LSemmens Question, Jack: 7 distros? Begs the question, why? Are they all used regularly, or is it just an interest?

My 7 distros are a kind of de facto comparison endeavor, I. e., is any given one "easier" to use than another [and it's very difficult to come upwith a rationale basis for a comparison]. It certainly is not a hardware working comparison attempt, i. e., I am a basic end user without really any whizbang hardware stuff. A good (but flawed) analogy would be comparable to shopping for a new car; you can test drive multiple brands/models but in the end they all do the same thing, i. e., get you from Point A to Point B since all cars are controlled by the same mechanical setup.

I tend to play with the 7 during very bad weather when staying home is preferable to driving about in the snow, etc., and I have a lot of free time on my hands.

And from a mind candy perspective, I find it fun to 2nd guess at why the coders designed the interface the way that they did, I. e., what 'advantage' to their interface (over other distros) did they conceive of when they designed it (I don't have a clue EVER why they did so except for those distros that tout a lean, bare bones interface that bear absolutely no resemblance at all to any Win OS that ever was).

LSemmens - 18-8-2015 at 01:23

Fair enough, My observation of a few of the distros is that they are trying to emulate Windoze. If they want to do that, it begs the question, "why bother?" If I want windoze, I'd use it!!!!

Edit: FWIW, I did prefer Ubuntu, but also liked Mint (That, at least, managed to work with my dual monitor setup - sort of)

JackInCT - 18-8-2015 at 01:46

Originally posted by LSemmens
a few of the distros is that they are trying to emulate Windoze. If they want to do that, it begs the question, "why bother?" If I want windoze, I'd use it!!!!

Besides the free nature of Linux (all distros), and that is of major importance to an unknown percentage of end users, the founding "fathers" of any given distro has to, as in mandatory, consider just how much effort, AKA time, any group, numerically speaking, is going to be willing to expend to learn their interface which, by definition, also means "unlearn" the interface that they were using before they loaded their distro. People are creatures of habit (yes, believe it or not, some are challenged by change--I know such a statement strains credulity). MS has found out the hard way that end user criticisms of a follow up OS hinges around absurd differences in the interface, or to put that another way, the interface change was simply done for change sake IMO. IF MS was smart (despite their IQs they have a considerable lack of common sense), they would have made each OS capable (as per a user choice) of having the exact same interface as ANY previous OS since after all, Win is nothing but a shell. The fools constantly move 'things' around for no good reason IMO, i. e., you are forced to learn all over again where to find some feature, AND if you use 2 different OSs on multiple machines......

Katzy - 18-8-2015 at 09:01

Oddly enough, if I dumped Windoze, entirely, the thing I'd miss most, in some ways, would be Doom.

Odd, huh?

LSemmens - 18-8-2015 at 09:53

Could you run that in a virtual machine?

Katzy - 18-8-2015 at 14:49

I probably could, if I take this route with my main machine. When MickeySoft screw W7 and no longer support it, I'll be forced to give it a go.

I know of many who are reverting back, or have done, now.

MickeySoft's feet must be like colanders. :D