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Religious support for Hillary?
scholar - 5-12-2007 at 16:55

Hillary support by ministers
She tries to make her support look strong (who wouldn't?) but padding the group with spouses seems somewhat deceitful without being forthright about it.

Hillary once said she found it hard to see how a Christian could be a Republican.

Obama's campaign came up with a longer list of support for him.

What do you think of such displays?

Candidates with a religious background have been prominent in the last several presidential campaigns.

marymary100 - 5-12-2007 at 17:11

Politics and religion should be separate in my opinion. I certainly wouldn't be swayed by such displays but I'm not surprised, given the TV Evangelical "Christians" in the US, that she would wish to appeal to those voters.

janet - 5-12-2007 at 17:13

While I would never try to separate my religion from my politics, I'd certainly not be swayed to vote for one party or another because someone else in my faith group did...

scholar - 5-12-2007 at 17:58

Marymary, few if any of the ministers on these lists would be TV evangelicals.

Janet, I think most people are similar to you, in that they would not vote for a different party because of religious support. However, in primaries, where everyone is from the same party, I think there may be more significant influence. I think this may prove important among the Republicans. If a number of Christian leaders endorse or oppose Gov. Romney (who is a Mormon; not a Trinitarian Christian, but his religion's values agree with those of evangelicals), it could make a difference in which person is selected to be the Republican candidate.

Dr. Dobsen, who founded a Christian ministry built around his radio program on issues he knew as a Christian psychologist, has said he would sooner vote for a third party candidate if Mayor Giuliani is selected. (G. has been divorced twice and believes government should allow and support abortions for those who want one.)

marymary100 - 5-12-2007 at 20:31

What's a Christian psychologist?

I've looked Dobson up and found this:

Focus on the Family - his radio show - reaches 220 million listeners daily, on over 7,000 stations in 160 countries.

This amount of influence is something that any Democrat or Republican would ignore at their peril.

I can't imagine any religious group having such sway over here, thank God.

scholar - 6-12-2007 at 00:56

Originally posted by marymary100
What's a Christian psychologist?

Dobsen is both a Christian and a psychologist, and the precepts of his Christian faith inform and guide his life (including the advice he gives in his radio program).

Some examples: he advises and promotes sex as a gift of God for use only in marriage. He opposes abortion. He opposes pornography. He believes the husband is the head of the family and should exercise spiritual leadership. He believes husbands and wives should make a good marriage a big priority, before work or wealth.

Most of Dobsen's programs feature a guest or guests who are experts in or writers about or who have experience in an area where the public can benefit from greater understanding. Autism, ADD, child discipline, being a better husband or wife, being supportive of school, home schooling , adoption, and many other topics have been covered over the years.

marymary100 - 6-12-2007 at 07:23

He also says women with children should stay in the home, instead of working, and young children should be physically chastised.

janet - 6-12-2007 at 11:20

It's worth pointing out that while these are all Christian values, in that many Christians will espouse them, not all Christians would agree with all of them.

LSemmens - 6-12-2007 at 13:50

Back to the earlier topic. If a politician chooses to run on a religious ticket, then they'd darn well be prepared to live the life of the particular faith that they claim to espouse! I personally believe that every person should take an active interest in politics and make an effort to support their local member. That means that religion and politics should definitely mix! If we wish to espouse a "religious" (depending on your faith) ethic in society, then we must needs be involved in every level of that society. That also includes voting at the various elections, if you don't vote, you have no right to criticise the elected government.

scholar - 6-12-2007 at 14:51

I know a church member who says he votes according to this simple rule: "If I'm not happy with the way things are going, I vote against the people already in office."

I asked him if he knows whether the legislators he's voting against have been supporting the legisalation that has been passed in the last term, or whether they have opposed it and been on the losing side. No, he doesn't bother to find out whether they vote the way he would have liked--he just votes according to his rule. :(