Ok all you brains. About 5 days ago I logged in to KF and posted just fine. Since then I have not been able to access the website from my home PC and
I get a problem loading page message. I even googled KF and clicked the link for KF and same results. Waffler emailed me his bookmark link and I tried
that with same results.
I can access KF from my sons office PC however just fine. I am confused and out of ideas, anyone have any suggestions?
I am beginning to think Leigh has blocked my IP
Could it be a cookie problem?
Try opening a dos box (Start Run Cmd) then issuing an <Ipconfig /flushdns> Command see if that helps.
flush Domain Name Server
Nothing working so far. Here is a list of things I have done so far.
Tried 3 browsers, FF. IE and Opera. Same results on all, cannot load page.
Removed KF User name and password from FF prior to trying Opera and same results.
Fluished DNS as per Leighs suggestion. still nothing.
Shut down Firewall and tried with no success.
No other bookmark links seem to be affected, only KF. I am leaning toward a blocked IP as I can not come up with another answer. I am sure KF has not done it, who and how could it be done otherwise any way? I was reading some comments on Yahoo and one person was complaining that Yahoo was blocking some of his sites. Is that a possibility?
In a few days I will have another PC here to work on and it will be interesting to hook it to my router and see if I can access KF or not from another PC on the same IP.
I will be posting this from the office PC
Try ipconfig /release
followed by ipconfig /renew
not sure if either of those will work, but worth a try
possibly flush dns servers again while you are there.
I just discovered another interesting thing. I used to have a "My Yahoo" page I accessed from the Yahoo home page. I had my favorite sports teams schedules there along with a few
other things I liked to check and keep track of. Now when I try to go there I get AT&T home page of which AT&T is my IP provider. Again, I can
get My Yahoo page from this PC but not from home.
This gets more interesting all the time.
curiouser and curiouser......
Highly unlikely, but have you tried a system cleanup, cCleaner (including registry), Malwarebytes, and complete (I mean as thorough and deep as your virus scanner will allow) scan?
Spent over an hour on chat with AT&T rep last night. Resolved the My Yahoo page problem. Yahoo & AT&T work together and both have a sign
in page. When you are signed in with Yahoo every so often it pops up and makes you sign in again. Well a sign in page jumped up and I signed in but
didn't realize it was the AT&T sign in page. I had to sign out of AT&T to get back to Yahoo.
But my KF page problem did not get resolved. They suggested some of the same things Leigh already had me do. It ended up with them having me check to see if my network was automatically selecting IP and then they had me reset my router but we still ended up back at square 1. I am getting that other PC that I can plug into my router and see what I can do maybe that will shed some light on my problem. This KF denial is terrible.
Just a thought, can you get onto Karls driver page
which is the 'main' page. I always go straight to /forums, but if the server is having a hissy fit and not letting me into the forums, usually a dB error, I can still get onto the driver site.
There should be no reason why this would work when the other does not, but thought it worth a try.
Tried that Leigh. The first time I could not get on I googled Karl's driver site and then tried the link with no luck. Confusing right?
It should be interesting to see the result of using another PC from your router as there is a rash of complaints about AT&T blocking websites
In the meantime try opening "command prompt" in your computer and enter tracert karlsforums.com . The final hop should be c-panel 31 but might tell where the problems if isp or server related begin.
I wonder if your "hosts" file's been nobbled...
If you open that, in a text editor, every line should begin with a "#".
If not, you might want to delete the lines that don't have that, at the beginning.
Another thing could be OpenDNS, if you use it. I used it, for ages. But, recently, it started blocking loads of perfectly normal sites, like The Guardian's website and loads of others. So, I dumped it.
Good thoughts I forgot both of those, Sceptre and Katzy.
Well,it is not my computer. Last night I hooked up the other PC which has basically nothing on it. I plugged it into my router by cable, then I
downloaded Firefox and tried KF. Got the same old "could not load page" message. Googled KF and tried the driver site and nothing there either. I
dont use OpenDNS so that is not an issue but I will check the host bit tonight.
Thanks for al the suggestions so far guys, I really appreciate it as it looks like it will take a better mind than I have to resolve this.
I just thought of something. Wonder what happens if I by pass my router and just go through the AT&T modem? Am I grasping at straws?
Definitely worth a try, delanti, I was going to suggest a hard reset of the router which will mean setting up all your security, NAT protocols etc, again.
Been considering that Leigh but have been using my age as an excuse for not remembering to do it. My YS will be here this weekend and he is a whiz at that stuff, I might see if I can talk him into doing it for me.
Ok, reset router or should I say YS reset it. No avail! On chat with AT&T rep yesterday for another hour or so and still no resolution. Did try
several other things, like pinging Karls but ping failed. Even the rep tried on a mobile phone and also tried the web site on his phone be could not
connect. Was KF down last evening around 5 - 6 PM EST?
He suggested trying a VPN to see what might work. Will attempt that tonght.
How about this link:
This is a PITA in the first class. I have to copy the link, email it to my home PC then when I get home this afternoon I can try it.
Beginning to think NSA has found out I am corresponding on this web site with Scholar and RW. I believe they have turned that info over to Homeland Security and they have blocked me from contacting those two. Due to the aggressive hostilities between them there is a good chance of hostilities breaking out even before we invade Syra.
I asked the AT&T rep yesterday if there was any way AT&T could or would block me from accessing KF and he said no, it would be against free speech. I don't know much about servers, is thee any way your provider apart from KF could block me? Grasping at straws here, even had the AT&T guy baffled.
I just want you to try that link because for some reason it works for me when other KF links don't. Just the belt and braces stuff really.
Just had a thought. Open a DOS box and perform a
"tracert w w w.karlsforums.com" that should tell you where it's falling over. (tke out the spaces in http://www though)
I will try that tonight Leigh. I tried your link Mary and no luck with that either. I tried a VPN last night and that didn't work either, I am about to my wits end with this thing.
What browser are you using? I use Chrome. Does it work on that? If you've already answered that just ignore this.
I thought that we had already tried the tracert .
We could try a link to a site who's server is located a few racks along in the same datacentre . MM will know which one .
I'm still pretty sure that it's a ISP block though as they have form regardless of what their rep said .
I'll send you a U2U to a different site on the same datacentre Delanti.
Leigh, your the man! Your suggestion didn't solve my problem but sure did
give me some insight into what the problem might be. I did a tracert and my ping ended at 126.96.36.199. I downloaded a trial version of a rout tracing
program and discovered that IP is AT&T Worldwide in Morristown, NJ.
I spent over an hour again with AT&T chat rep trying to find out why my ping ends there. I got the rep to put me on with her Supervisor and they both insisted on trying to get me to check my computer, browser and router to fix the problem and I insisted that they investigate why my signal ends in Morristown, NJ. Unless I am missing something if my ping gets that far, there should be nothing wrong with my equipment should there? She finally decided to put in a work report on the problem and I am waiting to hear something from AT&T on it.
Here is my ping route trace.
By clicking on the banner for the IP's you can get further information. On the one 188.8.131.52 I found this mention of a block. I am not sure what it means, but none of the other ones say anything about a block.
Does the ping fail at the same point every time?
Have you tried a Proxy server?
The block in that case is the netrange above it and not the other type of block we think that is in place .
Spent another hour and a half on AT&T help last night and they still insist on investigating every nook and cranny or my PC and related hardware.
This time they said my AT&T modem was configured incorrectly but when we tried to change it the modem conf program would not let me set it to what
they wanted it set at so we went back to the original. One thing I have not tried is to connect the PC directly to the modem, bypassing the router and
will try that tonight.
They keep focusing on either my system or the KF site. I keep telling them KF does not have me blocked but I guess that menu on their screen keep telling them that could be the problem. They did do a remote control of my PC and did a tracert and got the same results as I did.
They closed the report that was initiated the other day because they checked and AT&T does not have KF blocked, so they said.
Did you try the site I sent you a U2U link for? It is on the same bit of t'internet so if it is blocked too then the problem is with the server we are on, probably.
Actually, Katzy, some modems do not have routers built into them. I have three "routers" on my system. A modem router in one room that feeds the house. A router for the Lounge room that feeds the TV, set top box and a PC, and a router (which is also a modem - but not used) in the office which feeds the 'puters and printer in there.
But, I thought the converse was true. Routers are modems.
I could be mistaken, of course. But, I thought that routers that weren't modems, too, were called "Hubs".
A modem is really a modulator/demodulator whereas a router "switches" the data to various ports. Routers and hubs, might well be the same.
Chapter 2! I am in one of those can't win situations. Got home yesterday, had supper and decided to by pass the router. Changed the cables and WTF no
internet. Double checked everything, seems ok, No internet. Well crap, rehook up the router and crap, no internet.
Reset modem, no internet. Reset router, no internet.
Give up and call AT&T support. I get a recorded message that they are work in a disruption in my area and it should be done by 7:30PM. Look at the clock and it is 7:10 and there is a program I want to watch at 8 so off to the telly and relax. Shows over and out to the PC and ...................no internet. Reset modem...........no internet. Double check all connections, trouble shoot network and it says everything is ok by DNS not responding. Call AT&T support and get recorded message, " working on an outage in your area, no time estimated for compensation.
Well, that does it, back to the telly. Bed time, 11:00 PM and check, no connection. Get up this morning and check, no connection. 11:00 AM no connection, called support and get message, working on outage in your area no estimated time for completion.
Up date. The phone line problem got solved I guess so got on last light with AT&T support to try to get back on the net. Decided to try just the
modem (ADSL) which would not connect and after about half an hour the support threw up their Indonesian hands and said they would call me back.
Got to thinking that the previous support guy had me tinkering with my modem settings, went in and found I had no DNS settings. Set it to auto detect and danged if I didn't get back on the net. Still waiting for the call back by the way.
When I plugged the Netgear router into the system though I could not connect to the net and it showed no internet connection on the router so still have something there to sort out.
Tried Marys link and it worked fine Mary, thanks.
Still could not connect to KF using only the modem though.
At least I can get on support chat tonight, they seem much more knowledgeable then the phone support folks in one of those far away lands.
Karl's forum connection problem solved.After a week of every night chat or phone contact with AT&T support and them telling me that AT&T does
not block web sites and going through the set up for my modem, router, PC and everything except my chair and leaving me with a router that at the
moment is inoperable, guess what?
For some unknown reason that they would not reveal because I do not own the site, they have Karl's Forum blocked to all AT&T internet customers. They gave me an email address for Dot to email requesting the block be removed. I have forwarded this on to her via U2U. I don't have any idea if I am the only AT&T customer that visits this site or not so I can not tell if it has affected anyone else or not.
Now I only have to get my router problem sorted and wait until they unblock this site and I will be able to get back on from home.
Still wondering about that Scholar, RW and Obama thing though.
Isn't that odd? Maybe Dot has been getting the old out!
Ain't it grand? We must be some highly secretive terrorist org to have come to the attention of AT&T and be blocked.
Maybe it's all the anti-Obama rants...
Would be interesting to find out why we were suddenly blocked lol .
I doubt if it was Karls itself that was blocked but the ISP has used a sledgehammer to crack a nut by banning the server address instead of the actual offending site , they'll be literally a few hundred websites sharing that server address .
Taaa Daaaa Whoopie and yahoo!!! Logged in from home again. Thank you all for the help, it would not have been possible without you guys and gals, especially Dot for requesting the unblocking. I owe her one for that.
Welcome home, finally be released from prison. How's it feel to be a "free man" again?
We were with A T & T when in the US. We had an awful lot of trouble with our international calls in the late 80s - to Iraq at any rate. The bills were hundreds of dollars, way back then.
There seems to be another member who has had similar issues,AT+T customer, he has only returned recently after a 3 week forced silence.
Got a phone call today from my AT&T DSL expert. First of all, I am inclined to believe that she lives far from the shores of the US of A. Her
accent is very difficult to understand. I specifically asked her why I had gotten blocked by KF. She rattled off some explanation about a conflict
between my router and my modem that caused AT&T to believe that KF was a suspicious site. I didn't understand it and just marked it down as
hogwash any way.
Perhaps they poked their heads in the late night club and discovered that members were cooking imaginary food on imaginary grills and decided that there is something amiss here.
I think its certain members anti government diatribes, but I could be wrong. I've been wrong before,it was a Tuesday...