Imagine waking up to this
No I really can't imagine waking up to something like that.
Probably every single state has some sort of an alert notification system and cell phones (and not just smart phones; it called "Emergency Alerts" on the menu and it has a different ringtone) all have the capability to receive a short message. How vulnerable is any given states system to being hacked..............?
Much more important, the number of people who will be fired (or resign) for this is [fill in the blank].
A news program says a Hawaii state employee "hit the wrong button."
I would imagine everybody here at KF knows that Hawaii is supposed to be ready for a nuclear missile attack from North Korea.
The good news: we have 44 missile interceptors that should be able to knock down any North Korean missile.
The bad news is two-fold:
1the Obama administration cut back on money for missile defense.
2 The interceptors, which should be able to knock down any Noko missile, may fail if two many missiles are fired at us simultaneously. That seems unlikely now, but could happen in the future if Little Rocket Man is allowed enough time to build them.
Hawaii is home base for a couple of tsunami warning centers since the entire Pacific is geologically active, and it's been hit by some tsunamis over
the years. It's a safe bet that these warning centers are manned 24/7/365, and are tied in with Hawaii's emergency management system.
The websites mention training and simulation excercises, but it wasn't clear if that also means simulated, and tests, of the warning systems down to the civilian population level. If it does that, than it wouldn't be at all that unusual for routine, ongoing tests of the equipment, response times, etc., to occur.
And of course with the heightened anxiety over NK, it wouldn't be a big deal, coding wise, to include incoming missile warnings in the templates for various warnings/alerts.
Hawaii has active volcanoes to worry about too and for the civilian population to have those as well in what must be a pretty comprehensive multi-layered communication system, island wide.
I seem to recall that there are evacuation routes (to higher ground) as well for tsunami warnings. There was a good deal of TV coverage of all this a while back after that major tsunami in Indonesia.
Oh! Brown Stuff that comes out of your bottom! It's good to hear that it was a mistake. We receive targeted text messages if there is a severe risk in the vicinity.
Glad it was a false alarm
I don't know what I'm supposed to do if I hear this, head indoors?
Under the bed?
There are shelters in Hawaii apparently.
I wonder if there was a similar "button" which said this is a test.
There were frequent tests on the emergency system when I lived in the DC area. That allowed me to find out where the nearest basement/shelter entry was.
If Scotland is ever hit we'll just hold hands and sing for auld lang syne because basements and shelters aren't a thing except for those and such as those.
The good news is that it seemed to make them wake up and smell the coffee. One woman was a total convert from "bring it on" to2 do whatever it takes to make sure it never happens for real". Things like not provoking North Korea by using insults. And pushing the envelope and playing the diplomacy game like a skilled professional.
I think we are a lot safer here with the Royals. Whatever I think about the rights and wrongs of monarchy.
Put it like this, "Bugga You Jack (in the broadest sense of the name, not you specifically, Jack) I'm OK"
The Americans can keep Donald Duck on their side of the Pond, Queenie, is not such a problem, but, at least she also lives on the other side of another pond.
CBS News January 15, 2018, 7:19 AM
Inside Hawaii's emergency alert command center; Interview with Hawaii Emergency Management Administrator, Vern Miyagi.
Obviously Mr Miyagi still has his job; obviously the Hawaii civil servant service works?????????????
I heard on a radio talk show that the same drop-down menu had the choice to merely test if the alert system was working, or actually alert people that
there is a real emergency. Then, if the person chooses the real emergency alert, there is an interrogation box, are you sure you want to do this? I
think the show said the test is run frequently (every day, or every week? They said how often, but I don't remember that detail). The person who
sent out the false alert has done the test many, many times. This one time, he chose the wrong option, then clicked right past the question of if he
was sure he wanted to do it.
He still works there, but no longer has access to the alert system.
So now we know what Mr. Myagi does when he's not in pictures.
The whole thing was caused by a typing error on a drop down menu? You mean the fate of the whole world could depend on the accuracy of a mouse click?
Update: CNN article 01/23/18
Verbatim C & P of most of this article:
Story Headline: A false alert about a ballistic missile threat went out January 13 in Hawaii
It took 15 minutes to relay news of false alert on social media
(CNN)When Hawaii pushed out a ballistic missile alert earlier this month, Gov. David Ige knew within two minutes it was a false alarm. But he couldn't hop on Twitter and tell everybody -- because he didn't know his password.
"I have to confess that I don't know my Twitter account login and passwords," Ige told reporters Monday after giving his State of the State address. "I will be putting that on my phone."
The Hawaii Emergency Management Agency issued the alert -- sent to cell phones and broadcast on the airwaves there -- at 8:07 a.m. on January 13. A state official told Ige two minutes later it was false, CNN affiliate KHNL reports.
It took another 15 minutes before the state relayed that news on social media. And it took 38 minutes after the alert was sent for the emergency management agency to send out a second message telling the public it was a false alarm.
Under mounting criticism about the delays, Ige told the Honolulu Star-Advertiser that while he was unable to get into his Twitter account immediately to alert the public, he did during that time make calls to his leadership team at the emergency management agency.
Me Here: apparenty it didn't come up as to why he didn't resign.
He also apparently didn't explain how folks without a twitter account would know.
So apparently all of us need to have an account with every social media under the sun if we are to know that we are about to be blown/not blown to kingdom come.
He also didn't say whether anyone who got a traffic ticket/violation during this period for 'distracted driving' would receive amnesty/pardon.
I don't know what all the fuss is about. 38 minutes to "rectify" a stuff up on this scale is pretty good in my book. Yes, it shouldn't have happened and more checks and balances may need to be implemented, but all that may need to be done to "fix" the problem would be another magic mouse click that says "Ooops! We stuffed up!"
I just listened to a discussion in which panel members made an excellent point: This was the Governor! He could have called somebody!
How incompetent was he, that the only way he could think of was to announce it on Twitter, when he didn't know how to get on it?
How about: Phone a TV station! Phone a radio station! Phone a newspaper (who would put it on their own website, immediately)! If he didn't know how to do any of those things, how about finding one competent person in state government to do it for him? Or, tasking one person for the TV, another for radio stations, and a third for newspapers, so they would all be covered quickly?
This emergency management team is the same one that released a screen pick of the emergency management center, with a post-it note on a computer monitor which said: PASSWORD and then gave the password.
Worse, on a larger scale, is the fact that the announcement was pretty much useless as far a public safety was concerned, were the attack real, because no preparations have been made to protect the people, or to instruct them how to protect themselves. The message in effect meant, "Be terrified and say good-by, you may be about to die."
Possibly this situation has highlighted some of the inadequacies of the current system that can now be addressed. If it were a "normal" test, these problems may not have been highlighted, so....... It's an ill wind.
Update 01/26/18 Early AM Eastern USA Time
FCC: Person who sent false Hawaii missile alert refusing to cooperate
Attribution: ABC News By Jeffrey Cook Jan 25, 2018
Selective c & p of the article
The Hawaii Emergency Management Agency employee who mistakenly sent out a mobile alert warning of an incoming ballistic missile is refusing to cooperate with the Federal Communications Commission investigation, an FCC official said Thursday on Capitol Hill.
At a hearing with the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation, Lisa Fowlkes, the head of the Public Safety and Homeland Security Bureau at the FCC, said the federal agency is pleased with the cooperation from leadership in Hawaii, but disappointed in the refusal from the key employee.
“We share FCC Public Safety Bureau Chief Lisa Fowlkes’s disappointment," Hawaii Emergency Management said in a statement. "The Hawaii Emergency Management Agency has encouraged its employees to cooperate in all ongoing investigations. While cooperation is in the end a matter of choice for each individual, we hope that anyone who is not cooperating will reconsider and assist in bringing these matters to a satisfactory conclusion.”
The erroneous alert sent to the cell phones of Hawaiians resulted in panic across the state, including people abandoning their vehicles on the highway. A video of a man putting his child in a manhole went viral.
Me here: still no word as to whether any drug testing was requested, & performed as well as whether he is still on the payroll to include IF still not fired/suspended what exactly his new duties are.
The matter of a man putting his child into a manhole was obviously recorded by someone; why they did that if they really believed there was a threat, i. e., took the time to make the recording needs further scrutiny re motivation, purpose, etc.,. IF they really believed there was a threat who would be left to see it.
Video uTube URL (multiple hits of varying lengths): Run Time: 00:30
On the page with the hits for this vid, are a number of uploads of vids of people saying a final goodbye. While skepticism is always in order as to whether the 'presenter' is genuine, it's hard to believe that ALL of them are contrived for ulterior motivation purposes.
That was my plan. Back in the day. Go down the drain. Well, one way or another.
Jack, the rules state "all posts must be in ENGLISH" you have been warned. You are a Frog disguised as an Englishman living in Yankland, and I claim my reward.
Seriously, putting the kid down the drain, may well have saved his life, if the attack were genuine, Kudos to dad for thinking of it. As I have already observed, despite the pandemonium caused it may well have been a fruitful exercise. As to the bloke refusing to testify. Given the popular concept of the American psyche, it might just be that he is afraid of "The Man" making him a scapegoat. He might also be concerned about litigation.
Yes, Jack, you are quite correct in your analysis of such systems. However, the choice between the certainty becoming a pile of ash on the pavement and a possibility of becoming one with whatever is at the bottom of said drain might be a determining factor. I think I'd opt for the drain, too.
The investigation's report is not what had been told to news reporters.
The worker had a history of confusing warning drills with real-life events, once with respect to a fire drill and another time with respect to a tsunami warning, but they kept him in his position anyway!
He has been fired, and the head of the agency has resigned. Another employee has been suspended.
So, Jack, there has been some measure of reasonable response.
The article indicates the Governor did not understand what had happened until he read the report. That sounds like something of an initial coverup, or at least some evasiveness, until the General who led the investigation dug deeper.
Thanks for the update; I've not seen it yet on the media sites, but I will check.
I would like to introduce another issue for this event, and I have zero idea if its applicable here.
It is the major issue in many, many jobs called "zoning out" AKA "zone hypnosis" [and other slang terms]--it means "To stop paying attention and think about something else, or to think about nothing". It is an 'occupational hazard' for those jobs where for long periods of time on a shift, nothing, absolutely nothing is occurring, and you're just sitting there. The phenomena is exacerbated by those jobs that have rotating shift schedules, i. e., week 1-first shift, week 2-2nd shift, etc.,.
It is a very common problem in RRing where the drone of the diesel engine becomes a narcotic lullaby; and becoming susceptible to it gets worse as you get older.
It is a long known phenomena and has been studied. It has gotten a great deal of attn. as "highway hypnosis": Highway hypnosis, also known as white line fever, is a mental state in which a person can drive a truck or automobile great distances, responding to external events in the expected, safe and correct manner with no recollection of having consciously done so. In this state, the driver's conscious mind is apparently fully focused elsewhere, while seemingly still processing the information needed to drive safely. Highway hypnosis is a manifestation of the common process of automaticity, where the conscious and subconscious minds are able to concentrate on different things.
Every now and then media articles will relate events about airline pilots falling asleep in the cockpit.
I am wondering in this post if the root problem was NOT his mental acuity, but other issues that his managers themselves had no training in, or, if they did, failed to recognize that their subordinates were really not suited for their work assignments [and with related organizational issues oftheir being too lazy to reassign him and then have to train someone new].
There are many desk type jobs in the military that are as boring as any work can possibly be, and it involves sitting at a console in the middle of nowhere with an after work social life so far removed from civilization that watching paint dry becomes exciting.
From the reports that he has had issues in the past, and others were concerned about his acuity. Begs the question, why is he allowed to issue such a warning without any checks and balances. i.e. two buttons on opposite sides of the room where two people must operate them at the same time, or the like.
I had not considered my comment, per se, as a question, more an observation.
I have no concerns with your observation re: the Peter principle, thus it has always been, for time immemorial.