Do you think that universities devalue the work of normal degree holders by awarding honorary ones to celebs, businessmen etc?
I think it depends on how they are used, once they are bestowed...
Someone who goes around using the honourific would possibly annoy me but as a general idea, it can be useful, I think.
I don't think it makes much difference, if any. Where it would make a real difference (such as a person being hired for a position), the people hiring would easily be able to find out that a degree was honorary, I would think. In books and articles, a person should be judged on the quality of his work, not on his resume.
You'll still call me doctor when Janet arranges my honorary doctorate then?
The W.C. Fields character used to list a number of letters after his name, and never explained what they meant. I always figured it was an inside joke.
Wry grin - after a certain amount of the alphabet, it stops being meaningful, I think... (Though a friend tends to win on that kind of thing - she's rightfully entitled to 19 letters for legitimate things, I don't come close!).
Three very fine Scottish musicians were awarded Honourary Degrees this week....Ally Bain, Eddi Reader and Phil Cunningham. They have given a lot of
pleasure over the years to Scots and people all over the world and non more so than up here in the Highlands. When they were interviewed on TV I got
the feeling that they were slightly embarrassed on getting the award and had to laugh when Phil said that he had got more Honourary Degrees than he
had "O" levels.
My view is that a Degree should be worked for in the normal way or it erodes its value.
Unless the recipient can demonstrate competency in the field, i.e. can show that they have the same learning as a student who has done the course, then an honorary degree isn't worth the paper it's printed on. Any degree must be earned, by bl***y hard work!
I don't understand your question Janet. Are you asking if I think that some degrees are not as "respected" as others, i.e too easily come by?
If that is so, then I hope that I have not given that impression. My belief is that any degree must be earned and should not be granted to a person just because they are famous or a benefactor.
Fair enough -it's just that there are so often comments about "mickey mouse" degrees, or how some degrees aren't worth the paper they're written
I have to admit that when challenged, no one I've talked to has ever been able to say how they would themselves fulfil the learning outcomes of said degrees.
I know how I fared, and it wasn't pretty!
You get honorary degrees because you are generally recognised as being at or near the top of your profession - eg the musicians Runrig mentioned .
They have no effect on future job prospects, because the people who get them are already well known. I can't see Ally Bain going for a job as a
fiddle instructor and using an honorary degree to help him get it. He'd only have to pick up the fiddle for 30 secs to get the job...
They don't devalue real degrees, because everyone in the given industry should already know the recipient's reputation.
Although I'd be a trifle annoyed if someone got an honorary doctorate and expected me to call them Dr !
Quite a few people start using the title though I think.
Miss Judith Jane F. BA. GCSE, PMT.....
I think an honarary degree should only be awarded to someone who really is the top of their profession, and who's life experience has equalled or far surpassed the few years it takes to gain a degree in the same field.
Pro footballers ARE at the top of their profession, and very likely know more than I'd like to ask about fitness, health and motivation! A degree to honour this would be fitting from a University with a PE course.
You forgot CDM.
Dr MaryMary has a certain ring to it.................
Doesn't it just?
Come now... sign up.... you know you can do it............
I can't even bring myself to read another chapter...........
Cadbury's Dairy Milk
I think that there was a comedian a long time ago who used to say he had CDM after his initials. I was a child at the time so I may be mistaken.
There was, but I can not remember who.
It was the saying of the day decorated with CDM and Bar.
Dr. Runrig, Veterinary Doctor?
What's up, Doc?