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[*] posted on 11-6-2017 at 09:59
Denying it is, sure.

[*] posted on 11-6-2017 at 09:37
I agree that there should be no need to forever continue apologise for any event that occurred in history. However, those who do not, or will not, learn from history and accept, or even, deny, that it happened do not deserve to be given any publicity at all. As a nation, to deny the events caused by your own ancestors is foolish, to say the least. At worst, they may actually repeat said atrocities.

[*] posted on 10-6-2017 at 10:32
No. Ignoring it would be like saying that it never happened. What I'm saying, really, is that the cultural differences are blurring what's right and what isn't.

Japan is extremely different to here and, I suspect, was even more so, back then. To them, what was done might not be regarded as having been wrong and, perhaps, they're saying something like "Yes, that's how we were, then. Yes, in light of recent events, it could be said to be wrong. But, basically, there's nothing we can ever do, to right that wrong, no matter now much you go on about it". Can they be expected to pay for their mistakes so long after the event?

I'm just playing Devil's advocate, here.

[*] posted on 10-6-2017 at 05:42
Are you saying that it should be ignored, Katzy? The Germans have not shown as much antipathy to their history. Even the Americans are willing to accept the effects of their Atomic Bombs on Japan. Why can the Japanese not acknowledge that this did, in fact, occur and let it be relegated to the annals of history. There are memorials all around the world to remember the sacrifices made by those who were victims of war, ether as soldiers, or as civilians. It was not that long ago that the Japanese, along with Barak Obama (IIRC) held a ceremony in remembrance of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. What makes this any different?

These ladies deserve recognition and remembrance!

[*] posted on 9-6-2017 at 13:13
Since the dawn of time: [attribution is a Wiki on the subject]:

Camp follower is a term used to identify civilians and their children who follow armies. There are two common types of camp followers; first, the wives and children of soldiers, who follow their spouse or parent's army from place to place; the second type of camp followers have historically been informal army service providers, servicing the needs of encamped soldiers, in particular selling goods or services that the military does not supply—these have included cooking, laundering, liquor, nursing, sexual services and sutlery.

Nothing in the Wiki re naval forces at sea aspect of this matter.

[*] posted on 9-6-2017 at 09:28
They've always been edgy about this. I suppose, if one was being charitable, that it could be put down to the cultural differences between the sides. After so long, it could be argued that nothing good is going to come from keep mentioning it, now.

That doesn't make it right, of course.

During our wars, the British have done some pretty dire things. But, as we won, they never get mentioned.

[*] posted on 8-6-2017 at 20:23
Powerful stuff, Leigh, and - as you say - not generally known about. The statue is beautiful and well done that vicar for making it prominent.

[*] posted on 8-6-2017 at 08:42
A long read but worth it. A fight to remember . Unlike the holocaust, it's not as well known, remembered, or publicised.