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[*] posted on 27-1-2016 at 10:32


[*] posted on 26-1-2016 at 16:52
The God within instead of without.

[*] posted on 25-1-2016 at 13:48
Its odd that not believing in any god should need a name at all. Its not a religion its just common sense.

[*] posted on 25-1-2016 at 11:28
I consider myself a "Pagan aetheist".
The stories, structures and ethos of modern paganism appeal to me immensley but I have no "faith" in them.

[*] posted on 13-1-2016 at 01:30
They are atheists, pure and simple. Atheism is a religion just like any other belief set. Christian Atheism is an anachronism that cannot be reconciled, especially with their "statement of faith". They either believe in a God, or they don't, there is no grey area. If they believe "in" Christ, then they must acknowledge his claims, if they believe "about" Christ that is no different to believing "about" Hitler. i.e. He existed and probably did some of the things claimed of him.

[*] posted on 12-1-2016 at 17:13


Non-realism (Christian Atheism)

Christian Atheists want to remove what they see as the fairy tale elements of Christianity.

They prefer to call this a non-realistic version of Christianity, rather than Christian atheism. They say that they do believe in God - but not in a fairy tale way.

To do this requires great intellectual sophistication, as you can see from the outline of non-realistic Christianity below.

Essentials of non-realistic Christianity

Religion is about internal spiritual experiences, and that is all.
There is no world other than the material world around us.
There are no beings other than the living organisms on this planet or elsewhere in the universe.
There is no objective being or thing called God that exists separately from the person believing in him.
There is no 'ultimate reality' outside human minds either.
We give our own lives meaning and purpose; there is nothing outside us that does it for us.
God is a projection of the human mind.
"God" is the way human beings put 'spiritual' ideals into a poetic form that they are able to use and work with.
"God" is simply a word that stands for our highest ideals.
God-talk is a language tool that enables us to talk about our highest ideals and create meaning in our lives.
Religious stories and texts are ways in which human beings set down and work out spiritual, ethical, and fundamental meanings in life.
Our religious talk is really about us and our inner selves, and the community and culture we live in.
Religious language enables us to do something unique.
Religious talk uses the familiar language of things that exist outside ourselves to make it easier for us to handle complex and subtle ideas.
Faith therefore isn't belief in a God that exists outside minds.
Faith is what human beings do when they pursue 'spiritual' ideals.
Saying that someone follows a particular faith is a way of talking about their attitudes to life and to other people.