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[*] posted on 22-4-2017 at 23:35
Originally posted by John_Little
Sorry to hear that scholar. But Your fortitude amazes me.

I look at it this way: The Lord never gives us more to face in life than we can handle, so long as we depend on Him. And, the better I deal with the difficulties in life, the better advertisement I am for following Him. St. Paul says that Christians are "living epistles." (And, it works the other way, too--responding badly is also a bad advertisement for following Him.)

And, isn't it remarkable that I was able to get a ride to a 7:00 Easter service, getting there before the service was scheduled to start, from a gas station about an hour's drive away? From a stranger? kewl_glasses

His name, by the way, is Merl. What a guy.;)

[*] posted on 22-4-2017 at 23:27
Originally posted by marymary100
A terrible let down for you scholar. :(


[*] posted on 22-4-2017 at 23:27
Originally posted by Quaver
So sorry to hear that.
Not very nice of the gas station:(

I should have left them with contact information, that they could have called me and learned of my intentions when I didn't get back to them soon enough. I was distracted by my brother's death and all that goes with it.

[*] posted on 22-4-2017 at 15:33
So sorry to hear that.
Not very nice of the gas station:(

[*] posted on 22-4-2017 at 15:02
A terrible let down for you scholar. :(

[*] posted on 22-4-2017 at 14:29
Sorry to hear that scholar. But Your fortitude amazes me.

[*] posted on 22-4-2017 at 12:26
Ruby tried hard to get some money back for us, for a number of days. The car was owned by a family member of a pastor who owned the car previously, and who also runs a used car lot. One of Ruby's adult daughters knows the pastor and tried to get him to do what he could to persuade the man to give a full or even a partial refund. (I have known pastors who would put in their own money to set something like that right. But, I don't know if this one is in a good position to do so.) The agent who sold it for the owner was persuaded to try to get him to refund to us, but he did not prevail.

So, when it was clear we weren't going to get anything, we called the gas station to let them know we were going to junk the car--and we learned that the car had been towed away! To get it out to junk it, we would have to pay the towing fee, plus $50 for each day it had been held (a storage fee, they call it). That would be more than we could get for it at a salvage yard.:(

The day it was towed was the same day that I took a day off from work to get my younger brother's body to a mortuary and authorize cremation.

Still, if I had given up on the refund efforts and been able to handle junking the car sooner, I would have gotten something out of it. It seems I have too much to do these days.

[*] posted on 19-4-2017 at 08:32
You said the tyres are new, can't you keep them at least? Or sell them?

Maybe next time, get a mechanic or a friend with knowledge to have a look at the car before you buy.
I see here it says it costs about $100 :https://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/inspect-that-used-car-before-buying.html
dr john

[*] posted on 18-4-2017 at 13:21
In the UK cars need an MOT to be considered roadworthy. Now this doesn't guarentee they are perfect, but it does get inspected by approved garages and usually the car lasts for more than a day. It's a pity america doesn't require such inspections to check a car is roadworthy and safe to drive.

But as others have said, the cheaper and older the car, the more likely it will have problems soon. This is especially true if it's a 19 year old car - it's life expectancy is very short ! Especially if you have limited knowledge of it's history. It is false economy to keep buying cheap cars if you have limited mechanical skills. If you can't check it yourself, it would be worth paying for an inspection. Or as suggested, going to a reputable dealer and buying a car with some sort of warrenty.

[*] posted on 18-4-2017 at 08:12
I still feel you've been hard done by, Scholar. You didn't deserve to be done up like,a kipper. It's wrong and you have my sympathy.

[*] posted on 17-4-2017 at 09:31
I think that if you pay clunker prices you get a clunker.

I have had periods of extreme poverty but learned that "bargain" cars were too risky financially at that point unless you knew for sure who the seller was and the history of the car from the get-go.

I always buy cars with warranties now. One lemon was all it took for me to learn the lesson.

[*] posted on 17-4-2017 at 08:22
I have no idea about pricing for second hand cars in America, but. to me, it sounds like you got exactly what you paid for. $600 sounds extremely cheap for a car. The bolts on the SAAB would most likely be metric, given that it was manufactured in Europe. Unless you are mechanically ept, which, by your own admission, you are not, then cheap cars should NOT be on your shopping list! Given the amount you spend on cheap cars and the ongoing maintenance of them, you'd be far better off by spending a little more from a reputable dealer who offers warranty. A car, might, then, last you more than a few weeks.

I can get away with a cheap car, because I CAN fix it, but, even now, I try not to purchase "fixer uppers" because they do cost me more in time and parts than a slightly more expensive used car. How much, on average, are new cars in America? In Oz they start at around the $20,000 mark for a small car to about $50k for a family car.

FYI my last car (An Isuzu Trooper in US parlance) cost me $2000.00 which is my work "bomb". so far, it has not caused me any real grief and I've had it for over 18 months. My reliable car, though (a Hyundai) cost me $15,000 and I expect that to not give me any issues for 5-10 years. I still have to maintain both cars having needed tyres and batteries in the last 12 months.

Depicts mood of post posted on 16-4-2017 at 23:47
I started to feel a vibration and looked to pull over. I got onto the property of a gas station just after the battery light came on. Then the engine died and would not start again, a little short of a parking area. It had gotten really loud. A little wh8ile later, it started when I turned the key, but was really loud, and the gas station worker told me right away to shut it off.

This was around 5 or 5:30. I was perhaps 55 miles from church. I was told I could leave the car. A fellow in the station volunteered to drive me to my church, and off we went.

Later, the manager of the gas station complied with my phone request to check the car out. Reportedly, it is a bad lifter rod, and could be repaired for $600-700.

For a 1998 car with that many miles, it isn't worth it to me.

Ruby led me to the deal, but the paperwork says "as is" and she doesn't think we will prevail in getting money back. The fellow who sold it to us did so for another person who was the actual owner. So, however much we might complain to the agent, he has already turned the money over to the former owner, who is thereby insulated from us.

[*] posted on 16-4-2017 at 17:12
Saabs have a good reputation and that does sound cheap at around £600. What year is it? Can't remember if it's diesal. 150000 is not so much for a diesel.

[*] posted on 16-4-2017 at 15:12
My next door neighbour had it.
Good car I think:) What colour is it?driv_ing

[*] posted on 15-4-2017 at 23:11
I might mention, my Cavalier had a problem: a motor mount stopped doing its job, and the car or transmission seemed to jerk when going into reverse, and then when changing to forward. It jerked less when changing gears. My mechanic friend did not think it was worth fixing. (The part was over $100, and he would have had to buy an expensive ramp set at my expense so that he could do the job--not to mention his own fee, and he would take some days to do it.) He, himself, did not think it was worth fixing, if I could get a good car elsewhere for not much money. If the Saab holds up, for less than $800, I think I got a good deal.

[*] posted on 15-4-2017 at 23:04
That is my new car, found for me by my dear wife Ruby, who offered to buy it for me (then she asked if I would pay half, because she didn't have enough with her to buy it for cash, after she had bargained the salesman down own the price).

In some ways, it looks to me like a luxury car: heated seats, electric sun roof, electric windows, AC, automatic transmission, rear window defroster and wiper, little wipers on the headlights. I am expecting a European car to be engineered for fuel economy. I have the "five door" version (with the rear hatch counting as the 5th door).

I am having trouble putting on a license plate. The seller did not leave the screws or bolts in, and the size is different than most American cars (a little smaller). I don't know if it is a metric thing.

It has new tires on it, and a new exhaust--with documentation.

We paid $780 for it, and the odometer will cross 150,000 when I drive to church tomorrow (unless Ruby comes with me for Easter, in which case she wants to take her larger car).

Has anyone here owned a Saab? Do you have any warnings, or fond memories?

If no owners, perhaps someone has ridden in one owned by someone else? How did you like it?