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[*] posted on 5-7-2016 at 08:04
Firstly, it was a joke but if you're determined to go with the facts consider this:

Only 2 people signed on July 4th, the rest signed in August.

More alcohol was consumed prior to the draft being drawn up than was decent.

The FF expected the party to be on 2nd of July each year.

Benjamin Franklin was a noted joker with an obsession with farts so he was not allowed to draft the constitution in case he tried to slip in a joke somewhere.

Thomas Jefferson wanted the constitution rewritten every 19 years.

Most of the signatories kept slaves.

The Boston Tea Party was actually a protest led by smugglers of Dutch Tea, led by John Hancock, who couldn’t compete with legal tea prices.

“The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”
—John Adams

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus by the Supreme Being in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. ... But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with all this artificial scaffolding.... Jefferson


[*] posted on 5-7-2016 at 04:34
So, John, what you were saying is that they Americans are celebrating their first Civil War.
John Barnes

[*] posted on 5-7-2016 at 00:54
No to be more accurate call it we beat England( who were using Hessian troops) with the help of France day, also de facto they were English colonists and not Americans at that that time, Americans were the Indian nations. the fog of history tend to obscure the facts

[*] posted on 5-7-2016 at 00:26
Hmmmm. I never thought of July 4 as being centered on beating the English--which happened later. It is about the Declaration of Independence, which embodies some great principles

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

I cherish the idea that all men are endowed with rights by their Creator, and that this founding document acknowledges the Creator as the basis for these rights, which governments are instituted to protect.

[*] posted on 4-7-2016 at 23:50

:o It's your birthday!!!

[*] posted on 4-7-2016 at 18:40
. :D