Karl`s PC Help Forums Last active: Never
Not logged in [Login ]
Go To Bottom

In memory of Karl Davis, founder of this board, who made his final journey 12th June 2007

Printable Version | Subscribe | Add to Favourites   Post new thread Poll:
Author: Subject: FYI: Experiments With My Laptop Without Any Internal HD Installed
JackInCT
Custom User Title
*******




Posts: 1603
Registered: 21-4-2007
Theme: KF Blue (Default)
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] Post 510493 posted on 18-12-2017 at 17:52 Reply With Quote
FYI: Experiments With My Laptop Without Any Internal HD Installed



This series of events began last week when I attempted to install the Windows Updates for Dec. Nov's updates were uneventful, but upon bootup [amonth later with no use of this machine in the interval], and the attempt to launch Dec Updates, I got a dialog Window message that "Windows Updates Service Not Running" [NOT ever seen that before]. I then spent a considerable amount of time via Google hits trying to resolve the issue, to include a final attempt via a System Restore back to Oct. No Joy!

As we ALL know, the vast majority of updates are all related to the infinite number of the security shortcomings of Windows OSs. This particular machine is a 7+ yrs old laptop running Win 7, Home Edition. It is heavy and slow, and it hasn't been out in the field since 2012; otherwise it is a perfectly acceptable machine.

I found myself unwilling to do a reinstall of the OS [I have the original OEM install CD-that's how old this machine is]; I also guessed that making an archival ISO file redo would contain the same error(s). I toyed with the idea of continuing to use this machine AS IS, i. e., no further security updates, and simply never ever using the web for anything like online purchases (& email, etc.,) that a hacker could succeed in penetrating due to an unclosed hole. That option remains available, until, and if, I EVER find myself in the mood for an OS reinstall.

Over the past several months I have purchased about a dozen used SATA HDs from my go to computer mechanic at a considerable saving over a new one. In turn, I have installed a different Linux distro on each one [the Fun & Games approach to Inner Peace].

In turn, I took the internal HD out of my laptop, i. e., it's bare of HDs, and proceeded to do the following: I have an external SATA HD with its own power supply (the availability of the external power supply may be a critical resource in what I'm about to report on). I then connected this external HD via a USB cable to the laptop; and I popped in, chosen at random, one of my Linux distros. I then turned on the laptop, and wonder of wonders, it booted right up to desktop (no going into BIOS/whatever to select the HD). That's worked perfectly for 3 different distros with all the built in goodies on my laptop like WiFi, Bluetooth, etc.,.

I also tried this with my still servicable Win 7 OS HD--No Joy. It did boot up, sort of, to a warning screen that there were problems, and it did give me a choice of using Win Recovery, & Win Restore neither of which worked [the Win 7 splash screen comes up upon bootup for a few secondsbefore I got this warning screen]. This result is NOT unexpected for those that choose to mess with hardware.

Since I love these kinds of challenges (Yeah Right), does anyone have any ideas as to how I could "fool" the laptop into booting up the Win 7 OS from an external HD [OR perhaps some other "method" of doing so]?
View User's Profile View All Posts By User
LSemmens
Undercover MOD
********


Avatar


Posts: 32767
Registered: 19-11-2004
Location: Riverton, South Australia
Theme: Windows XP Silver
Member Is Offline

Mood: Gone crazy, Back soo

[*] Post 510505 posted on 18-12-2017 at 23:58 Reply With Quote


Since you can still get into Windoze

open a command prompt with administrator rights
run the command "sfc /scannow"

that should rectify any damaged files.

If you need more specifics, get back to me.
View User's Profile View All Posts By User
JackInCT
Custom User Title
*******




Posts: 1603
Registered: 21-4-2007
Theme: KF Blue (Default)
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] Post 510508 posted on 19-12-2017 at 01:00 Reply With Quote


Roger Wilco--worth a shot re you can't possibly ever learn enough about Windows even if you're a home user, AND certainly a much better option than a complete reinstall. I do wish, as a home user, I could figure out how this could have happened, but's that's not to be. As best as I can recall, Nov's updates required a reboot, but there would have been no reason for me to go back and double check updates, and there were no follow up update available icon in Sys Tray. I do typically with this machine, upon conclusion of the Win Updates, ALSO update all the software installs, one by one, and there were likely (I don't recall) some of those. For future reference, posters who find themselves in such a situation, should question whether the antivirus software had something to do with all of this, although that gear did not give me any warning about "blocking/warning" anything.
View User's Profile View All Posts By User
Post new thread Poll:

Guest Notice
You are a guest, as a guest you can only see a maximum of 3 posts per thread.

If you want to see the rest, please click here to register.