Prove it, if you can.
Renee Descartes eliminated that question ages ago. jmb
Only for himself John.
Not so Mary, IMO he was generalising as his statement could refer to any sentient being.
Unless we are composed of pixel's in a holographic matrix ? and are unaware of it.
I think therefore I am.
Mary answered that victor by saying Descartes singularised that statement to himself, not to others
And Victor has singularised that statement to himself, too. As have I.
Nietzsche took issue with Descartes's theory. He spoke about authentic existence and argued that we are unable to prove that what we think about ourselves and others is accurate. How do you know, for example, that you are not dreaming when you think you are awake? At any one moment it may be a Matrix-type experience you are having. How do you know it is an authentic one?
If I am not real who is posting under my name?
My cats let me know that I am real - every time their food dishes are empty !
Same, here, Nim!
Either that, or they have deranged imaginations.
This kinda thing has always made me think that, should I ever get fingered, for speeding, I merely have to say, in my defence, "My speed with relation to what?".
They'd probably take great joy from giving me the maximum sentence available, though.
As the merchant said
"If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die?"
So if the opposite to death is life, then surely I exist in life.
We must be real, Mary, otherwise, you'd not have asked of us, this question.
Unless some cosmic computer (matrix style)
had implanted the thought into a set of collective minds, yours included by reading Mary's stimulus
Or she's weird.
Now... That has something going, for it, that... [bad img]http://www.katzy.dsl.pipex.com/Smileys/giggle.gif[/bad img]
Would it really matter if we weren't?????
I must be real cuz I keep getting BILLS
I, for one, am absolutely sure that I am 'for real', otherwise I wouldn't be sitting here, and being extremely busy at that, trying to count the
number of angels that are dancing on the head of the pin that I am holding.
Does anyone have any idea just how hard it is to accurately count all of them while they are merrily dancing about??? The least they could do is to stop for a few moments while I take a census.
Presuming that anyone, including angels, are in a state of bliss doing something as invigorating as dancing, I will concede that they are quite happy with their lot. I certainly have never had the experience of hearing any of them asking among themselves to prove that they are for real.
This, IF I recall from Logic 101, is an appeal to a higher authority rationale as a proof. Yes, I will concede that angels are intellectually superior to everyone that has posted to this topic.
Yourself included, Jack.