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Women in combat
janet - 17-10-2008 at 08:07

Roles are changing

Even though women in the UK are not enlisted in specifically combat units, they are (according to the report) regularly deployed along side them.

Good idea? Bad? Necessity forcing change....?


Badgergirl - 17-10-2008 at 11:34

Not good.

More people able to go to war means, well, more people going to war! *shrug*, I'd like to keep as many people away from the firing line as possible, regardless of Gender.


SRD - 17-10-2008 at 11:41

Nowt new about women fighting:

http://www.stumbleaudio.com/#brianwatson/10


LSemmens - 17-10-2008 at 14:08

I agree, nothing new about woment fighting. In this day and age, why anyone should need to fight is beyond me. There are many other avenues to get your voice heard without resorting to violence againt others.


Daz - 17-10-2008 at 15:03

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Originally posted by LSemmens
I agree, nothing new about woment fighting.


Indeed. You've seen our town centres on a Friday and Saturday night then...? :D


marymary100 - 17-10-2008 at 15:09

If we want equality we can't hide behind men's bravery.


Theravad - 17-10-2008 at 15:22

There was a woman who qualified in the marines a few years ago ( Cpt Tatchell or something) - that qualified her for front line duty.

My only experience of operational duty with females was on ships - believe me, the dynamic and overall effectiveness always seemed tighter on single sex ship. We also lost operational space when we re-configured to allow women on board (different heads etc,..) and if you take the logical next step if you have a complement of different sexes of different persuasions and trans-engendered post/pre op personnel we would have to throw out most of the operational capability to segregate the personnel. ;)

Change is forced upon the forces by 'equality' zealots to the detriment of their operational effectiveness. Naturally I expect to be burnt at the stake for this view since despite seeing this with my own eyes, common sense and post modern polit,ical correctness are strangers.

T


Badgergirl - 17-10-2008 at 15:34

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Originally posted by Theravad
There was a woman who qualified in the marines a few years ago ( Cpt Tatchell or something) - that qualified her for front line duty.

My only experience of operational duty with females was on ships - believe me, the dynamic and overall effectiveness always seemed tighter on single sex ship. We also lost operational space when we re-configured to allow women on board (different heads etc,..) and if you take the logical next step if you have a complement of different sexes of different persuasions and trans-engendered post/pre op personnel we would have to throw out most of the operational capability to segregate the personnel. ;)

Change is forced upon the forces by 'equality' zealots to the detriment of their operational effectiveness. Naturally I expect to be burnt at the stake for this view since despite seeing this with my own eyes, common sense and post modern polit,ical correctness are strangers.

T


I agree. In purely practical terms, I'd FAR rather work with men only than Women Only *hehe*

Seriously actually. I find the Established hierachy among men so much easier to decipher, they seem to figure out their roles much quicker.
As soon as Men and Women work together It's been chaos in my experience.

I've been in Women only workplaces and got bored to tears by the conversation and the mood swings!


janet - 17-10-2008 at 15:57

Threavad - seriously - is it that efficiency is impaired because women are there, or because of the background that women are there now, but weren't, before?


John Barnes - 17-10-2008 at 19:46

The Russians and the Israelis have fighter pilots, why not its their homeland they are defending or their way of life , even in nature the females guard the families, its only the veneer of civilization that supress's it. jmb


the bear - 17-10-2008 at 20:07

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Originally posted by John Barnes
The Russians and the Israelis have fighter pilots, why not its their homeland they are defending or their way of life , even in nature the females guard the families, its only the veneer of civilization that supress's it. jmb



A lot of Russian tanks were driven by women in the 2nd world war,

Regards the Bear


Theravad - 18-10-2008 at 09:44

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Originally posted by janet
Threavad - seriously - is it that efficiency is impaired because women are there, or because of the background that women are there now, but weren't, before?


Dunno - it just is (based on first hand empirical evidence).

The dynamic (and tensions) between the ship's complement seems different. I think this is due, to a degree, to the natural "you woman - me man - hmmm" drives. There have been mixed complements for long enough now for the second factor you have suggested to be ruled out methinks.

Unfortunately, I have yet to convince fleet operational assessment to convert several frigates to all female complement then run the whole surface fleet in a series of exercises to gather meaningful stats on operational effectiveness of men/women/mixed complement warships. brshteeth

T