The Democrats punished Michigan for moving up its primary by ruling that no delegate votes would be awarded to Michigan at the nominating convention.
Obama and Edwards pulled out, so only Hillary is on the Democrat ballot. Anti-Clinton people are urging Dems to vote for uncommitted delegates.
Among the Republicans, McCain won Michigan 8 years ago. Michigan is one of those states where anyone can ask for either ballot, and some Democrats were then urging their people to take a Republican ballot to sabotage them. (I don't know how successful that was.)
Romney was born in Michigan, and his father served as Govenor there (but that was many, many years ago.)
Romney is concentrating on Michigan, which is a populous state with a lot of delegates. I just looked at a poll which showed Romney ahead of McCain by 1 point (which is within the margin of error for the poll).
At least Clinton is showing that she still thinks Michigan counts unlike the other front runners. Ignore a whole State at your peril, even if their votes don't count this time around.
As far as I know, Clinton is not doing anyting in Michigan. She did not withdraw her name from the ballot, but a win against no opponents for zero votes when no candidate has campaigned there will not mean much. (Even if the uncommitted delegates win against hers, it will only be an embarrassment.)
Just a question Scholar. Why start a new thread about different aspects of the US election campaign. would it not be wise, and easier to follow, if all comments were in one thread like "US Presidential Elections" so we all know where to look if we want to know what is happening?
You don't like her do you?
BTW, I was able to vote absentee in the Michigan election when Doctor Death's loonytune lawyer ran for Governor.
Hating John Engler (the then Republican Governor) so much, I voted for the lawyer, even though I knew he had no chance of winning.
Sometimes you have to vote for the loser to make a statement.
While I accept the point, there is an issue of scale...
If a report in California talks about what's happening in New York, it's reporting on something further away from the viewer than a report here about Rome...
It's no excuse, I agree, but it does help to put things into perspective... (for the record, I'm rather well known for deploring the fact that so few anglophones can speak a second, let alone a third language...).
Oh, Good Grief! I just learned that the Michigan primary is sort of like a little electoral college. The winner of each district, wins the 3
delegates from that district. If the race in a district has two or even three candidates who are close in vote, the winner still gets all three
delegates. If a candidate wins a district by a landslide, he still only gets three delegates.
So, working it out mathematically, a person could get the most votes in the state, but not get the most delegates. In fact, I will be surprised if more than three, or at the very most four, candidates get ANY delegates. Sombody like Ron Paul or Rudy Guiliani or Fred Thomas may not rise higher than second place in any of the districts. The present thinking is that Romney and McCain are very close for first place, and Huckabee will be back somewhere in third place.
I think the district-delegate arrangement will make it hard for the networks to figure out who won. The polls will be open for two more hours.
I read a blog by one Romney supporter who says that McCain and Huckabee have left the state. He thnks they expect to lose, and don't want to be there to concede.
I just learned the "8:00, the polls close" is Eastern time (not the Central Time), so I misspoke by one hour. There are now about 45 minutes left.
The Drudge Report says exit polls have Romney 34, McCain 29, Huckabee 16 (in New Hampshire, it was the predictive polls that were wrong, not the exit
But, how is it going district-by-district?
FINAL EXIT POLLS SHOW: Romney 34, McCain 28, Huckabee 17
Republicans 37% reporting
Romney has been called as the winner. The exact total, and how many delegates he will have, will require more complete results.
So, of the first four states, Huckabee won the first, Romney the second (which was largely ignored), McCain the third, and Romney the fourth (and largest).
I think this leaves Romney in good shape, but McCain and Huckabee are still in it. Guiliani's announced plan has been not to spend time and money in the first few little states, and I don't thnk he has been competing in Michigan. He had hoped to win Florida, and then a number of the big states on Super Tuesday (Feb. 5). If he does, he is in it as well.
Fred Thomson needs to do well, soon, or he will effectively be out of it, unless they turn to him at a second-ballot convention.