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marymary100 - 28-10-2014 at 18:10

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Pope Francis has said he believes in the Big Bang theory.
The pontiff also said that the scientific account of the beginning of the universe confirms God's existence.
At a meeting of the Vatican's Pontifical Academy for Sciences, he said that evolution was compatible with God's plan.
He said though the first book of the Bible, Genesis, might suggest God was a "magician with a magic wand able to do everything," that this "is not so".
Instead he claimed that God "created human beings and let them develop according to the internal laws that he gave to each one so they would reach their fulfilment," reported the Religious News Service.
He added: "Evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve."...


LSemmens - 29-10-2014 at 00:43

Big Bang: Let me get this:
First: we had nothing
Then: nothing happened
And: We are here

Have I got that right?


waffler - 29-10-2014 at 01:32

Quote:
Originally posted by LSemmens
Big Bang: Let me get this:
First: we had nothing
Then: nothing happened
And: We are here

Have I got that right?


It Looks That Way :D:D:D


Badgergirl - 2-11-2014 at 17:49

Quote:
Originally posted by LSemmens
Big Bang: Let me get this:
First: we had nothing
Then: nothing happened
And: We are here

Have I got that right?


And God said "Let there be light" and then....KABLOOOOOO!!!!!

I was once laughed at (at, not with) quite heartily for making that joke but I do think if anyone IS going to believe in a creator, they may as well place him around the Big Bang.

That's not to say this gives me any reason whatsoever to believe there's anyone taking notes on me.


LSemmens - 4-11-2014 at 10:55

My thinking is more along the lines of, "Why would the "Big Bang" be any more believable than a Creator?" We were not there to observe either event. The only valid argument for one over the other is scientific analysis and evidence based upon repeatable tests. We have NEVER seen anything "just happen", but we have seen "cause and effect", i.e. a created effect. There is still more evidence to support an intelligent creation than to support a spontaneous effect.


Badgergirl - 5-11-2014 at 12:11

Quote:
Originally posted by LSemmens
My thinking is more along the lines of, "Why would the "Big Bang" be any more believable than a Creator?" We were not there to observe either event. The only valid argument for one over the other is scientific analysis and evidence based upon repeatable tests. We have NEVER seen anything "just happen", but we have seen "cause and effect", i.e. a created effect. There is still more evidence to support an intelligent creation than to support a spontaneous effect.


Actually there's evidence for nether before the "event" happend. We have proof of "stuff" back to a point, then no solid evidence for any "stuff" before that point.

There's no evidence for a creator, there's no evidence for a spontanious effect. Science hasn't found anything yet BEFORE the point where...well....you get the idea.


LSemmens - 7-11-2014 at 02:27

Observable evidence in the current world shows us that there is a "cause" for any effect. Nothing "just happens". Scientists can explain how a hurricane is "caused", hence my reasoning for some form of creator. We have never observed "something from nothing" without some catalyst (a creator, if you like). If the universe has been here for time immemorial then that could preclude some form of "creator". The fact that it has a beginning, and looks like it also has an end tends to indicate that there is something outside of our perception that has caused it.