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And Jesus Wept...
Redwolf5150 - 12-12-2013 at 03:09

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marymary100 - 12-12-2013 at 07:01

Shortest sentence in the bible is - Jesus wept. Not a lot of people know that.


Nimuae - 12-12-2013 at 07:07

John 11:35 - and very appropriate in this instance, along with Matthew 25:40 !


LSemmens - 12-12-2013 at 11:18

It's unlikely that Jesus, himself, would have been welcome in a church such as this. He certainly did not tolerate the self serving religious institutions of his day.


John_Little - 12-12-2013 at 11:32

"Jesus hit his head on the table several times" sounds more appropriate.


Katzy - 12-12-2013 at 11:41

Quote:
Originally posted by marymary100
Shortest sentence in the bible is - Jesus wept. Not a lot of people know that.


Shortest verse, too, innit?


marymary100 - 12-12-2013 at 21:02

Indeed. I find though that some online versions no longer have it set out like that.


waffler - 12-12-2013 at 23:46

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_second_shortest_Bible_verse#slide6


Redwolf5150 - 13-12-2013 at 00:20

I'm waiting for all these devout Christians get to Heaven and realize there was a TINY error in all those paintings of Jesus.

Like, they got the RACE wrong.


kewl_glasses


scholar - 13-12-2013 at 02:50

Quote:
Originally posted by Redwolf5150
I'm waiting for all these devout Christians get to Heaven and realize there was a TINY error in all those paintings of Jesus.

Like, they got the RACE wrong.


kewl_glasses

Every follower of Jesus who has Biblical knowledge knows that Jesus was a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Judah, and part of David's royal line.

And every knowledgeable scholar of Christian art knows the tradition adopted by Christian artists of many cultures, in which Jesus is artistically represented to look like the people of their own culture, to make the theological point that Jesus was born of Mary to become like us, to live the life of perfect righteousness that we owe God and to suffer the punishment we deserve for our sin, in our stead.

So, you see Jesus painted to look Chinese among the Chinese. He is painted like a Renaissance European (complete with their pointed style of beard) by Renaissance painters. I have more black family members in my area than white ones, and a picture of Jesus as a black man hangs on my wall. The Bible says hardly anything about His appearance, so artists must supply visual details from their artistic imagination.
teacher_mode


Redwolf5150 - 13-12-2013 at 06:17

Not according to a FAUX News anchor


marymary100 - 13-12-2013 at 07:03

Am I the only one who finds the use of that teacher icon patronising?


John_Little - 13-12-2013 at 10:28

Yes.


Katzy - 13-12-2013 at 11:45

If Christ was to manifest himself, today, the vast majority of self-proclaimed Christians would be in for a huge shock, methinks...


scholar - 13-12-2013 at 12:17

The Unity Truth Centers (spelled Centre in Canada, of course) are sometimes mistaken for Christian because they are sometimes referred to as churches (as in the OP article). They do not hold to the distinctive Christian teachings, found in the Christian Bible and spelled out in the Apostolic, Nicene, and Athanasian Creeds.

Here is a Unity Truth "Sacred Labyrinth"- a fitting symbol for a group that uses the religious buffet approach.
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Here is the Winnipeg web site for the group

Since they do not follow Jesus as Lord, neither Biblical commands nor Jesus' own concern for the poor have the authority that they have for Christians.


Redwolf5150 - 13-12-2013 at 13:49

So, I suppose a church is ONLY a church if they practice Christianity?

Very narrow view of other religions you have there, sir.


marymary100 - 13-12-2013 at 16:11

It can be used for other religion's buildings. teacher_mode


Feeling patronised yet?


Redwolf5150 - 13-12-2013 at 17:58

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scholar - 13-12-2013 at 19:03

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Originally posted by Redwolf5150
So, I suppose a church is ONLY a church if they practice Christianity?

Very narrow view of other religions you have there, sir.

The OP has a picture of a statue of Jesus, and other posts in this thread make remarks about Jesus and Christians--but the article is not about those who follow Jesus as Lord and accept His teaching that He is the unique Son of God.


Redwolf5150 - 13-12-2013 at 19:10

As ALWAYS on KF, we have meandered off the OP.

Now answer my question.

kewl_glasses


Katzy - 13-12-2013 at 22:20

It says that the food bank is "Causing social unrest in the church", Scholar. Are we to assume that the Unity church of Victoria is not full of people "who follow Jesus as Lord and accept His teaching that He is the unique Son of God"?

Their website must be blatantly lying, then. I suggest you contact them to complain.

http://www.unityvictoria.ca

Here's their "Contact us" page:

http://www.unityvictoria.ca/form/contact-us


Redwolf5150 - 13-12-2013 at 23:22

Wonder what Jesus would say about a church who feels the poor and hungry it's food bank attracts TOO many people and stops because it's causing "social unrest in the church."

Makes you wanna rethink the whole Loaves and Fishes story, doesn't it?

"I'm sorry, I gathered you here to hear a sermon. I said nothing about feeding you."


waffler - 13-12-2013 at 23:54

Quote:
Originally posted by Redwolf5150
As ALWAYS on KF, we have meandered off the OP.

Now answer my question.

kewl_glasses


Wot woz the kwestion :D


scholar - 15-12-2013 at 02:07

Quote:
Originally posted by Katzy
It says that the food bank is "Causing social unrest in the church", Scholar. Are we to assume that the Unity church of Victoria is not full of people "who follow Jesus as Lord and accept His teaching that He is the unique Son of God"?

Their website must be blatantly lying, then. I suggest you contact them to complain.

http://www.unityvictoria.ca

Here's their "Contact us" page:

http://www.unityvictoria.ca/form/contact-us

The group about which Redwolf posted is at Winnipeg. Here is their website.

But, the Unity Truth movement rejects Jesus' teaching that He came to seek and to save the lost. They believe that people are inherently good.

Jesus said, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except by Me." Unity, Winnipeg teaches "Many paths lead to the one loving God."

John 3:16 says that Jesus is the unique Son of God (the meaning of the Greek word sometimes rendered "only-begotten"). Unity teaches "God is Absolute Good, everywhere evenly present," denying that Jesus is uniquely the Son of God.

I actually applaud the Unity movement for the fact that they DO NOT represent themselves to be a Christian church. There are many groups which have emerged over time from a Christian background who have departed from the Christian doctrines, and put the Christian name on their new enterprises. It is more honest to say, "I don't believe what Jesus and the Christian Scriptures taught. I want to recommend a different viewpoint and teachings"--if you don't follow the historic Christian faith.


John_Little - 15-12-2013 at 10:09

There should be a speech bubble attached to that statue saying

"You just don't get it, do you?"


LSemmens - 15-12-2013 at 11:18

Great idea, John. I suggest that that statement could well be correct given some of the bickering and arguing that goes on.