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How do you pray?
marymary100 - 7-8-2008 at 14:21

Following on from Janet's post about prayer and mine about Eid instead of Labor Day, how often do you pray - if you do -and what format does it take?

Is it aloud?

Is it internalised?

Does it follow some kind of prescribed ritual regarding time or place?

Do you need to go to a particular place?

Do you need to wash or cleanse beforehand?


janet - 7-8-2008 at 14:30

After years of thinking about all this, and the inherent contradictions one finds, I've come to a number of conclusions *for myself*:

Prayer is a dialogue. That means at times one has to shut up and *listen*.

Prayer that is all "gimme, gimme" isn't prayer. It's selfishness personified, and quite possibly a means of attempting to get what one wants without actually DOING anything about it.

God is (within my understanding) all knowing, all caring, all powerful. For me, with limited human understanding and vision, to say to such a being, "Please do X and Y" is hubris of the highest order; how can I, who am limited, tell an unlimited being what to do or even what is best? Doesn't work for me. So I end up, at most, saying, "Bless and remember X" ...

I don't have to be in some special place, but some places are special. :)

I don't feel the need to wash, etc., though I understand the reasons behind the idea, and can see the value in ritual (as indeed, there is, in the Mass).

I'll use set prayers, etc. and cherish a memory of praying the rosary in Latin when we heard the news of the pope being shot - Latin was the only language we were all guaranteed to be able to use together (there were people who spoke English, Italian, Japanese, Polish, Maltese, French... on the bus that day). But most of the time, I don't use these. (I do tend to always have a rosary with me... I really do want people to know I'm a Catholic if I'm in an accident). (1)


(1)I used to carry a card that said, "I'm an important Catholic, in case of accident, call a bishop!" but I began to be concerned that some kind soul would take it seriously :}


LSemmens - 7-8-2008 at 15:30

I like your last comment Janet! Very good!

Not being a Roman Catholic, prayer in Latin, or the Rosary does not form part of my communication with God. Everything else tha Janet has said, I agree with, and it quite accurately sums up my own relationship with God.


Badgergirl - 7-8-2008 at 18:18

I pray in many ways, but never aloud unless it's part of a ritual
I find then that the words bring focus and ressonance, as well as the fact they are shared with the group.

Sometimes if I'm in a special or powerful place ie, Castlerigg stone circle, I pray differently. I suppose it's the difference between a Christian in day to day life praying in their head, and then the more formal and powerful atmosphere of their Church where people speak outloud.
In the case of Castlerigg I like to be wearing something nice, and feel good.

My friend and I came up with a theorey why it's ok for Wiccans to prance about in cloaks and so on.
While the whole Dribbly candles and Black makeup malarkey is in no way neccessary to pray or do magic...it makes you feel good about yourself and helps you feel powerful.

I used to revise in my smart stuff or stay in my Uniform so I didn't feel like lounging around in sweatpants!

Does that make sense?


marymary100 - 7-8-2008 at 19:18

I pray every night before going to sleep. It is internal and always begins with a phrase in Arabic - which I like because it praises God - and continues in English by thanking God for the day. I then ask for blessings for other people.

In church it is more formal with focused prayer and spoken responses.


TooCute4Words - 7-8-2008 at 21:32

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Originally posted by marymary100

I pray every night before going to sleep.


I did hear of an Irish woman who used to pray whilst she was asleep before she awoke nananana


marymary100 - 7-8-2008 at 21:51

Your mother?


TooCute4Words - 7-8-2008 at 21:55

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Originally posted by marymary100

If not you, who?


Whoops!! (forgot) that's in your signature - strike that!! shocked_yellow

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Originally posted by marymary100

Your mother?


No, she's normal English - Like normal (Me) :D


Swift - 7-8-2008 at 23:42

P - Praise God for all that he does and provides.
R - Repent for any sins I may have committed.
A - Ask first for what others may need/want.
Y - Ask last for stuff I (yourself) may need/want.

Probably seems kind of elementary but it works. Keeps things in perceptive, God first and yourself last.


Badgergirl - 8-8-2008 at 14:24

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Originally posted by Swift
P - Praise God for all that he does and provides.
R - Repent for any sins I may have committed.
A - Ask first for what others may need/want.
Y - Ask last for stuff I (yourself) may need/want.

Probably seems kind of elementary but it works. Keeps things in perceptive, God first and yourself last.


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