Britney Spear's 16-years-old sister announced Tuesday that she is pregnant.
Britney off balance
She stars in a popular sit-com in which she plays a girl about 13 years old, for whom the target audience is girls who are younger still. The parents of girls who are eight or ten years old and who love the character would rather not have to explain how "Zoey" made a poor choice.
Britney and Jamie Lynn's mother was working on a parenting book. I've heard the book has been "put on hold," but I don't know if the radio host was joking.
The network is the most popular cable network for children, Nickelodeon.
The father's name is Casey Aldridge. He has been JL's boyfriend for some time. He is 18 or 19 years old, according to People.
Casey link here
I think they aught to bring the child molester up on Statutory Rape charges.
Would you rather she had aborted it scholar?
Afterall, the parents of her fans wouldn't have to have had any awkward discussions if she'd decided to go for a quick termination before her pregnancy became common knowledge.
My grandmother was 15 when my mother was conceived - she'd been married a year at that point, quite legally.
Surely what is most important is that all those bringing children into the world receive support, rather than vilification?
Mary, mother of Jesus, seemed to manage all right as a single mother because she received support.
Leigh, do the scriptures actually *say* that?
It is implied as:
Joseph was told to take Mary as his wife after he found that she was pregnant.
They returned to Bethlehem, Joseph's "home", to be counted in the Census, were she still unmarried, she would have been counted with her parents.
I don't mean to be pedantic here, but:
So Joseph also went up from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, to Bethlehem the town of David, because he belonged to the house and line of David. 5He went there to register with Mary, who was pledged to be married to him and was expecting a child. (Luke 2)
The reason I'm pointing this out is what I've said before - we need to deal with what the texts *say*....
Hence - my assertion that she was a single parent, as uncomfortable a notion as that might be....................
Well scholar as I'm sure you know some branches of Christianity believe that there is no soul until just before the moment of birth.
I reviewed the Greek, to be sure I wouldn't make some careless mistake. Both Matthew and Luke describe Mary as Joseph's wife, using the specific
Greek word for wife, before Jesus was born.
Young's Literal Translation
Matthew 1:24 And Joseph, having risen from the sleep, did as the messenger of the Lord directed him, and received his wife,
"His wife" in Greek is actually "the wife of him."
The Greek text I am using in another window doesn't stay Greek if I copy-and-paste it into my KF window, so I can't picture the Greek word for you.
Young's Literal Translation
Luke 2:5 to enroll himself with Mary his betrothed wife, being with child.
Some explanation of the phrase "betrothed wife" is in order. It means a wife with whom the wedding vows have been exchanged, so that they are indeed legally husband and wife, even if the marriage has not been physically consumated yet, and a divorce would be required to end the relationship. (Remember, when Mary was pregnant and Joseph knew the baby could not be his, he had in mind to divorce her quietly, until he learned that the baby was God's doing.)
Nodding - I know, but I'm still not sure we'd talk about someone today as a "single mother" if there were another person in the household who had parental responsiblity?
I can't imagine that the girl who is "underage" will have less support than Mary received. Support comes in all guises these days.
Many always-single parents have full time support from their own parents whereas once-marrieds are divorced from their children's real father but are still bringing up their children alone to all intents and purposes.
The issue for me is that being "single" does not have to mean being unsupported. Many a man does take on another person's child as his responsibility.
If JL's bf takes on his own child as his responsibility, so much the better, but if she has been earning her own money as a tv star the fact is she can probably afford her own child more than most could.
Let's not assume that the tabloid press's judgement of JL is correct and be so quick to judge. Judge not ......etc etc. Let he who is without................
If we don't want kids getting pregnant at that age, we should ether teach them more about responsibilities...or ...perhaps....
Raise the age of consent?
She had sex at an age where many states allow it at that age. I Don't see the problem.
I don't, either, BG - she's having a baby.
She's choosing to keep the child.
What in heaven's name is the furore all about?
And I agree with MM - I've got waaay too many logs over here to be looking at the motes other people possess.
Do you remember also the "let he who is without sin" quote?
The point is, this young person is having a baby, and because of who she is, there is a media fiasco going on, and it got posted here.
If the child is loved, wanted and well taken care of, more power to them.
Wouldn't our time be better spent helping those who need it rather than wagging fingers at those in the news?
I've never really seen the need to wait for marriage before sex.
If anything, it's a rather daft thing to do in an age of decent contraception. Marriage does not automatically make you financially capable as well as emotionally capable of bringing up a child together!
Hey, Being together for ages does not make you able to pay for a decent wedding!
I'll wait until I'm married and well settled before I think of Children, but I took the liberty of finding out how compatable my beloved and I are first!
It's unhealthy to be together for so many years and not follow your mind and body under the sheets. The words "To make love" are waaay underused if you ask me!
A Piece of paper and some vows do not make you any MORE in love than before the wedding! (Though the vows would certainly encourage me to work hard at it!)
Part of my final year at Bangor was taken up learning about Medieval Marriage, and all the Hoo Har about Consent, Betrothal, Consumation, Witnesses, locations and Annullements!
About the only bit of Common Sense that came out of it was that Both parties marry with their own consent, in front of decent witnesses. Nowadays in Britain you can marry almost anyway you wish, religious or not.
*Sigh* I think where I was going with this was to say, No sex before marriage is about as useful as saying "Go to the post office before the bank" It just depends what you have to do!
Badgergirl, I don't have time just now for a thorough discussion today of reasons why sex only in a durable, committed marriage would be best.
For Christians, the main thing is a trust that the Lord who made all creation knows best. It's like when the people who designed a car put out an owner's manual that tells what kind of oil to use, what fuel, what antifreeze, what transmission fluid. If you use cooking oil to lubricate the engine, water in the radiator, and burn pure alcohol in the engine, it may appear to run fine--but the one who designed it might know better that the oil will break down, or the water-cooled engine block will rust, or the alcohol will not ignite well in cold weather.
Moved from Discussion.
Yet again, the thread drifts to Christianity!
It's not the be-all and end all of how people make ethical decisions, as all of us here know.
*sigh* I make a comment on discussion and it gets posted in RSE becuause of the response to it!
Scholar does have a point, and he used his beliefs to answer my post,
but perhaps it would have been interesting to see if the thread carried on in that way before moving it? I think it could have had a bit further to go in plain old "Discussion"
Badgergirl, I think the topic was in "danger" of being moved from the time Mary and her status as Joseph's wife was brought into the discussion.
Indeed. It doesn't make the discussion any less interesting just because it has been moved.
Your comment that "sex only in a durable, committed marriage would be best" certainly implies that you feel to live otherwise is wrong or worse. The thread has been moved from Discussion to RSE where religion can be brought into it if you wish. You can now expand the point you didn't have time for, or not.
Casey's uncle is a
Baptist pastor (link)
I notice in the article that the two have been seeing each other since she was 14 and he was 16.
Does the length of the relationship matter?
And is it anyone else's business?
Just for a couple of days, could we leave off all the finger wagging over stuff we don't approve of, that other people - whom none of us know, or are ever likely to meet - are doing?
There isn't any finger wagging in my post about Casey's uncle.
How can there not be, when you've made the point about underage sex, and then go on to point out how long they've been seeing each other?
If the point of this thread was, "Rejoice, because a child will be born!", it's been a very strange way to go about it.
Casey's uncle is irrelevant in this context. We all make mistakes and must live with them. As Janet has said, is it really any of our business?
Romans 1:28 “Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what
ought not to be done.
1:29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, and malice. They are gossips,
1:30 Slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant, and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;
1:31 they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless.
1:32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these things but also approve of those who practice them.”