I have elsewhere read of Pullman described as "a militant atheist." This article doesn't present him as such.
I wonder if it will be a commercial success, especially if many Roman Catholics or Evangelicals don't take their children because of the viewpoint represented.
I do take exception to the advertising which says it is "in the tradition of Narnia" when it is more of an anti-Narnia. But, I can't expect them to advertise, "If you loved Narnia, you'll hate our bizarro version."
What do you think? Have you read the book, or the series?
I would prefer to read the book and see the film before reaching a conclusion about the merits of The Golden Compass.
I haven't seen the film yet but have read all three books and loved them.
I only know of it by repute. From the reports I've read, I'll not seek it out, but, should the opportunity present, I may investigate it and make my
I wonder if it is not unlike "Hairy Pothead" where all the "Holier than thou" brigade immediately wrote it off without ever checking it out. When my tribe were growing, occasionally they'd ask to see a particular movie, rather than just writing it off if it did not agree with our "moralities", we'd watch it, and then decide if our tribe could see it. If we were against, we could then give a reasoned explanation as to why. Sometimes we couldn't find a specific reason and we'd sit with our tribe and discuss it. Occasionally we'd all sit and watch the movie together and discuss our concerns as we went. When the "Potter" movies first came on the scene, there was a lot of discussion and our viewpoint was that, in many ways, it was not unlike "The Sword in The Stone" or "The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe" and we enjoyed all that we've seen.
I couldn't read the Pullman books because I was very unhappy when they came out and I did NOT need more gloom. :}
But I'm with Leigh - I'd not make any comments without seeing it.
I did read one of the Harry Potter books, simply to see what all the fuss was about. I enjoyed it in a very take-it-or-leave it way...
I wonder about those who get all worried about these things. Did they never tell their kids bed time stories that had magic in them? What else is sleeping for a hundred years, pumpkins turning into coaches and so on?
As for Narnia - I've not read the books and only saw the movie cause we were on a plane but considering the amount of classical Greek Pagan themes in it, why would people approve of that and not other things? Faun, my foot...
I tried reading Pullman. Whatever womderful plot there may have been to "Northern Lights" was lost among the dreadful narrative.
The guy is bland and dense.
What would Jesus see
Another article on the subject.
From the article that you report, scholar, it would certainly seem to be quite damning and blasphemous. I think that the jury will need to deliberate a little longer on this one, before a decision is made as to whether it is a good storyline or not,
Surely the only way to know is to go and see it?
It amuses me that this sort of thing comes up over and over, and yet people get so pushed out of shape over the idea of the Index of Forbidden books....
Agreed totally, Janet!
That may be a way to decide whether to go and see it. It's not really a way to know what's in it, for oneself, and particularly not in terms of charges such as blasphemy, etc.
Hearsay is not permissible in a court of law, why would you accept the opinions of others, until you've proven what they say. It is often argued that
Christianity is a based on many old stories in a book, to a large extent, that is true. What many, who go by the name of Christian, will argue is that
the Christian life must be experienced to know the truth of it. I put it to you, Scholar, that, as you have the opportunity, you can test the veracity
of the claims of the reports by seeing the movie for yourself. Then, and only then, you may praise, or otherwise, an event, or, in this case, a
Remember what happened to those who challenged the Demons to leave "in the name of Jesus, who Paul preached".
I'm waiting to see how Playboy reviews it.
I have found them to match my likes and dislikes very closely.
And yes, I have read the book it is based on.
What is your thinking on the book, RW? Would a person who claims the Christian faith find just cause?
in first weekend. Someone's going to see it even if fundamentalist Christians are trying to dissuade people from seeing it.
The best way to ensure a good box office is to create some controversy. Without the adverse publicity it may well have been a flop!
Those Evangelicals who are disrecommending the movie have been extremely low-key, to the point of being "invisitile," probably for that very reason.
The Catholic League's opposition has been much more public and vocal.
However, I don't know if the usual rules about controversy and the box office apply to a film with animated war bears, especially in December. I think parents like to drop off their kids for the span of a movie while they, themselves, go Christmas shopping. The gifts go in the trunk of the car while the kids are in the multi-movie theatre at the shopping mall, and they don't even have to drive to pick the kids up (nor must they spend money for a sitter).
It's the bathroom tile that is missing?
I meant invistible, of course.