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Bios Upgrade
retiredguykc - 30-12-2007 at 23:46

I need help in finding a free Bios upgrade for my computer. I just installed a new 160 GB HD, but it only shows as 137 GB.
I was told thatI need a Bios upgrade to allow the drive to show its full 160 GB capacity. I have tried to find one, but all web sites direct me to Esupport.com which charges $39 for the upgrade that I need. I am running Windows P Home with SP2. I have a PC clone with the original 60 GB HD, 1 MB memory, a Celeron R 2.6 Ghz processor. The motherboard as far as I can find is made by Elitegroup Computer Systems or ECS. The model is L4VXA2 Ver 1.1E 11/19/2003. The Bios info that appears across the bottom of the screen when booting is:
11/19/2003- P4x400-8235-6A6LXE19C-00
I have not been able to find my exact MB model on any of the web sites, not even the one for Elitegroup.
Does anyone know where I can find a no cost Bios upgrade for my computer?


retiredguykc - 30-12-2007 at 23:54

On the boot up screen it show the following across the top of thescreen:
Phoenix Technologies Ltd.
Phoenix- Award Bios V6.00PG


Daz - 31-12-2007 at 00:12

Have a look....

HERE

Or

HERE

What size does the BIOS report the HDD as?

Edit -

BTW, there no mention of a HDD size fix in the two BIOS updates...


Daz - 31-12-2007 at 00:23

v1.1e looks to me like you are already running the latest BIOS...


retiredguykc - 31-12-2007 at 15:18

The Bios will not detect it when set to AUTO. When I set it to Manual with access mode set to CHS, I can put in 65535 Cylinder(it says this is the max number)16 heads, and 63 sectors. After I put these in the HDD capacity shows 33824 MB.
After it boots up to Win XP, I go into control panel , and on to disk management, it shows the capacity as 128 GB NTSF.
When you click on Computer, then the drive, and properties,
it shows a capacity of 137,436,168,192 bytes and to the rI can'tight of that figure it shows 127 GB.
I can't get the ESC web page to open just now, but I will keep trying.


Quaver - 31-12-2007 at 15:53

Have you tried bios test here?
http://www.48bitlba.com/

Sorry if this has been covered - haven't read all your posts yet;)


John Barnes - 31-12-2007 at 21:24

Because British calculate differently than their American counterparts

for example 8 bits to a byte, 1024 bytes to a kilobyte, and 1024 kilobytes to a megabyte, and 1024 megabytes to a gigabyte, a hard drive will be sold as say a 160 gigabyte hard drive where as the Americans always round their calculation off to 1000 bytes = a kilo byte
1000 kilo bytes = a megabyte
and 1000 megabytes = one gigabyte , so it will come up short and a advertised 160 gig hard drive will actually appear less than what it is advertised at, a misnomer I know but that is how it is in the computer world also XP prior to service pack 2 would only recognise up to 137 gig make sure you have service pack two installed this allows hard drives of over 137 gigabytes , sorry but that is the way it is.jmb


Daz - 31-12-2007 at 22:29

Thread started here... Originally...

http://www.karlsforums.com/forums/viewthread.php?tid=33646


retiredguykc - 1-1-2008 at 01:05

Daz, I still cannot get the ECS website to open to check the Bios upgrades.
All the other sites will just give you a free scan, but you have to pay for their software. Or you are directed to Esupport,com who charges $39 for a Bios upgrade.


Wilbur - 1-1-2008 at 10:38

I can't see the point of these 'bios' scans to tell you what you have.
On boot up, it should tell you the version of the BIOS that you currently have installed.
Make a note of it, and then check on the ECS website (if you can get it to open) and see what the latest BIOS file they have listed..............if they match, then you have the latest BIOS.

I haven't checked the whole thread, so I don't know the make of the HDD you are trying to use.
I use Maxtor and WD and both sites have utilities to download with an option to format and prepare your drive for use.........while it is installed in your computer and done through windows.

Mind you, it could just be your motherboard playing up.
I bought an MSI board 2nd hand to build a computer, and the darn thing would not recognise the HDD I had plugged into it.............I had to get another proper motherboard (Abit) and that had no trouble recognising the HDD so I was able to proceed with the build.
So, maybe it is just your board has gone flaky ?


KOUROSH - 1-1-2008 at 14:47

i have 160 GB motherboard but it only shows 152 GB, and i always thought that up to 10% of the hard disk is not shown . for your motherboard go to this site which is specialized for motherboard and all necessary data relating to motherboard, but i think you must unplug your pc and actually see the motherboard itself it is written on it somewhere. try to contact motherboard web site and tell them.


http://www.motherboard.cz/

i hope others make a note of this site


Daz - 1-1-2008 at 23:11

Quote:
Originally posted by retiredguykc
Daz, I still cannot get the ECS website to open to check the Bios upgrades.


The ESC links are working ok for me.... Try clearing your Browser's cache and try again.... I guess, if necessary, I could grab the two files and host them for you... But I'd rather you saw the webpage for yourself, so you could visually compare the two Mobo's with your own, and make absolutely sure they match.....

But, as I've said already, it looks as though your BIOS is up to date, as the latest version on the site is v1.1e which appears to tally with the CMOS/BIOS string you posted...


retiredguykc - 2-1-2008 at 02:33

Thanks Daz,
I got the ECS site to come up and I found the correct MB and yes it looks like I have the latest Bios upgrade.
Do you think it could be a driver that needs updating or maybe the jumper settings are wrong?
I am going to call Hitachi tomorrow and see what help they can give me.
Based on some of the manufactures FAQ's, the MB that I have will support HD's up to 160 GB.


Quaver - 2-1-2008 at 07:19

Seems to me it's a 48-bit addressing problem (unable to support HDD larger than 137GB). Not that I know anything about that, but there seems to be a limit of 137GB which seems to fit your problem. Have you seen my link I posted previously?

There should be a fix somewhere, could be: here:http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/download.htm
Under 'Feature Tool'.

Can I just stress here once again 'I don't know anything much about 48bit!' :D


retiredguykc - 2-1-2008 at 21:59

Great news, I finally got it to show the HDD as 153 GB( this is less than the 160 GB rated size due to way size is calculated).
I called Hitachi today( they were closed over the holidays)
and they had a download file that fixed it. It allows you to create a boot disk that when you use it to boot, you can set the size of your HDD.
Thanks to all who helped me with this problem.


Quaver - 3-1-2008 at 00:42

Great news!:clap)
What was the file?


retiredguykc - 3-1-2008 at 02:38

When you go to the Hitachi website, click on downloads, then
click on Feature Tool, then click on CD Image. Save the file to a folder, then burn it to a CD to create a bootable disk.
Leave disk in computer, then log off and and reboot. It will boot up to a utility that will allow you to set the actual capicity of the drive. After it is set, exit the utility and remove the disk and reboot. It will now show the full capicity of the HDD.


retiredguykc - 3-1-2008 at 02:42

I forgot to mention that there is also downloadable instructions on how to use the Feature Tool. It iis a PDF Adobe file.


Quaver - 3-1-2008 at 03:17

Good to know I was on the right lines.
I don't particularly believe in telephone helplines, but in your case, it worked. Way to go Hitachi!kewl_glasses