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A quest for a baby
Quaver - 2-12-2009 at 08:23

For those of you who doesn't know, I miscarried in August, and have decided to wait till December to try again.
It is December:D

Any and all tips welcomewaveysmiley

What I am doing now:
Both of us taking vitamins/folic acid combo Sanatrogen
Charting temperature in the morning.
No caffeine for me, instead Rooibos tea (organic).
I never smoked, and don't drink alcohol.

My cycle is on the long side, so my next ovulation day should be coming sometime around Christmas;)


John_Little - 2-12-2009 at 09:58

What about a bottle of red wine, candles and something from the Nigella Lawson cookery book?


Quaver - 2-12-2009 at 10:32

Quote:
Originally posted by John_Little
What about a bottle of red wine, candles and something from the Nigella Lawson cookery book?

I don't have that book, have signed Gary Rhodes instead:D
It'll have to be non-alcoholic red wine as well;)
But worth a trybrshteeth


John_Little - 2-12-2009 at 10:34

Well, what about the candles?


Quaver - 2-12-2009 at 10:44

Have those, no problemkewl_glasses
But perhaps I should get a proper one, not tea lights...


scholar - 2-12-2009 at 13:18

Quote:
Originally posted by Quaver
For those of you who doesn't know, I miscarried in August, and have decided to wait till December to try again.
It is December:D

Any and all tips welcomewaveysmiley

What I am doing now:
Both of us taking vitamins/folic acid combo Sanatrogen
Charting temperature in the morning.
No caffeine for me, instead Rooibos tea (organic).
I never smoked, and don't drink alcohol.

My cycle is on the long side, so my next ovulation day should be coming sometime around Christmas;)
I recommend that you have sex with your husband. waveysmiley


LSemmens - 2-12-2009 at 13:19

All the best Quaver, I hope it all goes well for you. SWMBO only had to look at me to fall pregnant so I cannot begin to empathise with your problem. I do know that when the little one is born you will make the proudest and happiest parents. We've several friends who have either used IVF or adopted, so can understand your concerns.

I will pray that all goes well for you.


Quaver - 2-12-2009 at 15:08

Quote:
Originally posted by scholar
I recommend that you have sex with your husband. waveysmiley

Everyday or every other day? :D


Quaver - 2-12-2009 at 15:09

Quote:
Originally posted by LSemmens
SWMBO only had to look at me to fall pregnant so I cannot begin to empathise with your problem.

I got pregnant in the first week of trying last time, but it didn't work out:(
I want better eggs and you know what;)


giron - 2-12-2009 at 15:14

Quote:
Originally posted by Quaver
Everyday or every other day? :D


You could try every few hours.

Naturally, it's best not to do it whilst you're in Sainsbury's. waveysmiley


scholar - 2-12-2009 at 15:52

Quote:
Originally posted by Quaver
Quote:
Originally posted by scholar
I recommend that you have sex with your husband. waveysmiley

Everyday or every other day? :D
Yes!kewl_glasses


marymary100 - 2-12-2009 at 18:56

It's the quality and motility of the swimmers on the day in question that matters if you know you are definitly going to ovulate at a certain time.

http://www.having-a-baby.com/millenium.htm is an example of may sites available online to make your life easier.

Falling pregnant wasn't the issue however so take care once you get there. :)


victor - 3-12-2009 at 22:59

Watch Gavin and Stacy you might get some tips from them. ;)


Quaver - 3-12-2009 at 23:39

Thanks Marywaveysmiley


Quaver - 3-12-2009 at 23:40

Quote:
Originally posted by victor
Watch Gavin and Stacy you might get some tips from them. ;)

:o (Yes, I have seen some:D)


giron - 4-12-2009 at 00:04

Didn't Stacy tell Gavin that after she'd had a baby he wouldn't be getting any more sex? shocked_yellow


Quaver - 4-12-2009 at 00:13

Quote:
Originally posted by giron
Didn't Stacy tell Gavin that after she'd had a baby he wouldn't be getting any more sex? shocked_yellow

:D:D:D


waffler - 4-12-2009 at 01:28

Quote:
Quote:

Everyday or every other day? :D


Every day as Practice makes Perfect :D:D:D


victor - 4-12-2009 at 23:48

Quote:
Originally posted by giron
Didn't Stacy tell Gavin that after she'd had a baby he wouldn't be getting any more sex? shocked_yellow


Well isn't that the way it goes. ;)


marymary100 - 5-12-2009 at 00:32

A wise man helps to take care of the baby so that the woman still has some energy left for him.


Quaver - 5-12-2009 at 01:20

Quote:
Originally posted by marymary100
A wise man helps to take care of the baby so that the woman still has some energy left for him.

I wonder if I could get that printed onto a mug:D


the bear - 5-12-2009 at 01:31

Quote:
Originally posted by Quaver
For those of you who doesn't know, I miscarried in August, and have decided to wait till December to try again.
It is December:D

Any and all tips welcomewaveysmiley

What I am doing now:
Both of us taking vitamins/folic acid combo Sanatrogen
Charting temperature in the morning.
No caffeine for me, instead Rooibos tea (organic).
I never smoked, and don't drink alcohol.

My cycle is on the long side, so my next ovulation day should be coming sometime around Christmas;)



My advice for what its worth.

Forget charts

Forget thermometers

Forget your bicycles.

Do go for a walk in the rain

Do hold hands

Do enjoy some nice food.

And yes be a outrageous, share a romantic bottle of wine.

It will happen all the quicker if you just relax and enjoy each others bodies.

Be yourselves, be together.


Regards the Bear waveysmiley:):):)


Quaver - 5-12-2009 at 02:02

Thanks Bearwaveysmiley
But I do have excel chart:D


waffler - 5-12-2009 at 04:44

As the Nike ad says Just Do It :)


John_Little - 5-12-2009 at 11:10

Quote:
Originally posted by Quaver
Thanks Bearwaveysmiley
But I do have excel chart:D


bloody hell! She'll be posting progress pie charts next!


Quaver - 11-12-2009 at 12:06

Quote:
Originally posted by John_Little
Quote:
Originally posted by Quaver
Thanks Bearwaveysmiley
But I do have excel chart:D


bloody hell! She'll be posting progress pie charts next!

This is a PC forum after allkewl_glasses


LSemmens - 11-12-2009 at 13:52

Is that Politically Correct, Quaver? kewl_glasses


Quaver - 11-12-2009 at 14:12

Quote:
Originally posted by LSemmens
Is that Politically Correct, Quaver? kewl_glasses

Karl`s Politically Correct Forums?shocked_yellow
That can't be it, with Giron as a member:D


Quaver - 20-12-2009 at 08:30

It's time of the month for making babies:cool:

Hope my hubby is up for it tonight, I did tell him yesterday.
We have decided to wait 'till it is close to my ovulation (egg releasing) as possible, so everything is at its freshest (to avoid miscarriage).

Will know the results around the end of first week in January.
With us luckwaveysmiley


marymary100 - 20-12-2009 at 09:37

Just enjoy the intimacy. The rest will follow. ;)


John_Little - 20-12-2009 at 10:38

lips_sealed


Daz - 20-12-2009 at 10:49

Quote:
Originally posted by marymary100
Just enjoy the intimacy. The rest will follow. ;)


Wise words.

It's well documented the more worked up about getting pregnant the more your body rejects the idea. Relax, enjoy the fun, and don't focus on the aims. If you start treating it as a task, it soon becomes either all consuming, or a chore, or both.


Quaver - 20-12-2009 at 12:20

Quote:
Originally posted by Daz
the more worked up about getting pregnant the more your body rejects the idea.

lips_sealed
It rejected the foetus, so I know my body has a mind of its own...


Quaver - 20-12-2009 at 12:45

What happened was, on Saturday night, we went out. One of his friends said when are you going to have kids? He said he is waiting for the stork to bring the baby.

On the way back home (me driving since he had some drink), noticing it's nearly my ovulation, and since we didn't do the 'thing' for over a week, I asked him:

Q: Do you really think the stork brings the babies?:D
Mr.Q: What? it doesn't?shocked_yellow
Q: We do need to do something you knowwaggyfinger
Mr.Q: Let's do it tonight!
Q: Not without protection. Your swimmers are drunk. Tomorrowkewl_glasses


John_Little - 20-12-2009 at 13:19

I dont think it makes any difference. Does it?


Quaver - 20-12-2009 at 13:42

Quote:
Originally posted by John_Little
I dont think it makes any difference. Does it?

It may, it may not. Don't want to take any chances;)
A lot of perfectly healthy babies are conceived after a drunken encounter:D


LSemmens - 20-12-2009 at 13:49

Just relax and enjoy the ride, Q. Getting pregnant may be the easy bit, the rest of the ride may be the hard part.


victor - 20-12-2009 at 13:51

Quote:
Originally posted by Quaver
What happened was, on Saturday night, we went out. One of his friends said when are you going to have kids? He said he is waiting for the stork to bring the baby.

On the way back home (me driving since he had some drink), noticing it's nearly my ovulation, and since we didn't do the 'thing' for over a week, I asked him:

Q: Do you really think the stork brings the babies?:D
Mr.Q: What? it doesn't?shocked_yellow
Q: We do need to do something you knowwaggyfinger
Mr.Q: Let's do it tonight!
Q: Not without protection. Your swimmers are drunk. Tomorrowkewl_glasses


Thats no good you both need to be tipsy. :D


Quaver - 20-12-2009 at 13:54

Quote:
Originally posted by LSemmens
Just relax and enjoy the ride, Q. Getting pregnant may be the easy bit, the rest of the ride may be the hard part.

One step at a time, I'll start with enjoying the ride:D
Quote:
Originally posted by victor
Thats no good you both need to be tipsy. :D

:D:D:D


the bear - 21-12-2009 at 03:37

Just let it happen,what would be best for the said off spring that mum laid in bed with a thermometer and stop watch in one hand and ovulation charts and a breathalizer in the other saying to Mr Q "5 4 3 2 1" start now.

Or

That you go overcome with good old fashioned lust, ended up on the rug in front of the fire in the middle of Coronation Street which lead Mr Q to instigate an action replay to the strains of the "Bill"


Regards the Bear ;)


marymary100 - 21-12-2009 at 07:10

shocked_yellow Too much information..


Quaver - 21-12-2009 at 07:24

Quote:
Originally posted by the bear
mum laid in bed with a thermometer and stop watch in one hand and ovulation charts and a breathalizer in the other saying to Mr Q "5 4 3 2 1" start now.

You know me too wellroffle

No, you are right Bear, I'm getting too obsessed lips_sealed
Will try the other approach:love2)


LSemmens - 21-12-2009 at 11:44

Enjoy it anyway! lips_sealed


Daz - 21-12-2009 at 13:52

Quote:
Originally posted by Quaver
Quote:
Originally posted by John_Little
I dont think it makes any difference. Does it?

It may, it may not. Don't want to take any chances;)
A lot of perfectly healthy babies are conceived after a drunken encounter:D


Alcohol does affect the swimmers IIRC, but only if you consume regularly, a one off now and again shouldn't be a problem. Cigarettes also cause fertility problems, as can some medications.

/FYI


Quaver - 21-12-2009 at 14:06

They say it takes three month for the swimmers to develop.
My OH is not a regular drinker, but has been drinking this past 2 weeks with Christmas parties etc. :(

I've always been a teetotaler so don't understand how it can be worth itconfused2


John_Little - 21-12-2009 at 14:30

shocked_yellowlips_sealed


Quaver - 21-12-2009 at 14:32

Quote:
Originally posted by John_Little
shocked_yellowlips_sealed

Which bit? 3 month or teetotaler?


victor - 21-12-2009 at 16:00

I think you should take a visit to The Cerne Abbas Giant


John_Little - 21-12-2009 at 22:06

Quote:
Originally posted by Quaver
Quote:
Originally posted by John_Little
shocked_yellowlips_sealed

Which bit? 3 month or teetotaler?



It was the Teetolaler.


Quaver - 21-12-2009 at 22:50

Quote:
Originally posted by John_Little
Quote:
Originally posted by Quaver
Quote:
Originally posted by John_Little
shocked_yellowlips_sealed

Which bit? 3 month or teetotaler?



It was the Teetolaler.

:D My dad loves alcohol, my mum just don't like it.
I think I take after mum:P
I do have occasional Champagne and wine if the occasion requires it;)


Quaver - 21-12-2009 at 22:51

Quote:
Originally posted by victor
I think you should take a visit to The Cerne Abbas Giant

It's a bit cold now to do the deed in the dead of night:P


giron - 21-12-2009 at 22:59

What's up now, has your central heating packed up? confused2


marymary100 - 21-12-2009 at 23:05

He's got a big club.


giron - 21-12-2009 at 23:12

That's good, if he gives the central heating a jolly good thumping with it, that's bound to get it working again.

Is he GPO trained, by any chance?


Quaver - 21-12-2009 at 23:21

Quote:
Originally posted by giron
Is he GPO trained, by any chance?

No! :D


giron - 21-12-2009 at 23:29

That's probably what the problem is.


marymary100 - 21-12-2009 at 23:59

Posting on here all night won't help of course...


Quaver - 21-12-2009 at 23:59

Quote:
Originally posted by giron
That's probably what the problem is.

Oh dear, better find a manual - or better still a DVD:D How come he doesn't have any of those DVDs that men likeconfused2


John_Little - 22-12-2009 at 10:10

Getting back to alcohol, your abstinence will be a good thing once you are pregnant. When she was pregnant, Theresa sat in pubs with me with her drinking orange juice and lemonade all night while I had a good time.


Quaver - 22-12-2009 at 10:38

Quote:
Originally posted by John_Little
Getting back to alcohol, your abstinence will be a good thing once you are pregnant. When she was pregnant, Theresa sat in pubs with me with her drinking orange juice and lemonade all night while I had a good time.

cheers:


John_Little - 22-12-2009 at 11:00

cheers:


victor - 22-12-2009 at 11:53

Quote:
Originally posted by Quaver
How come he doesn't have any of those DVDs that men likeconfused2


Maybe you have not found them yet. ;)


John_Little - 22-12-2009 at 13:16

You mean like Debbie does Daffodils?


marymary100 - 22-12-2009 at 13:18

Karen does it everywhere...


Quaver - 22-12-2009 at 13:21

Quote:
Originally posted by victor
Quote:
Originally posted by Quaver
How come he doesn't have any of those DVDs that men likeconfused2


Maybe you have not found them yet. ;)

I see. Perhaps he keeps it at his workwaggyfinger


Quaver - 26-12-2009 at 05:20

I'm 4 days past ovulation. Trying to guess whether it worked or not.

Mum said I look tired. I asked do you think I'm pregnant? She said norolls_eyes
I asked my sister if she thinks I look tired or pregnant, she said she can't see the differencerolls_eyes

My clothes are getting too tight, and my stomach feels like I've eaten too much, but then it was Christmas:D


victor - 26-12-2009 at 13:29

Quote:
Originally posted by Quaver


My clothes are getting too tight, and my stomach feels like I've eaten too much, but then it was Christmas:D


I hope for me that's all it is because I have the same symptoms. :D


Quaver - 26-12-2009 at 13:31

Quote:
Originally posted by victor
Quote:
Originally posted by Quaver


My clothes are getting too tight, and my stomach feels like I've eaten too much, but then it was Christmas:D


I hope for me that's all it is because I have the same symptoms. :D

roffle


John_Little - 26-12-2009 at 14:29

Quote:
Originally posted by victor
Quote:
Originally posted by Quaver


My clothes are getting too tight, and my stomach feels like I've eaten too much, but then it was Christmas:D


I hope for me that's all it is because I have the same symptoms. :D
:D


LSemmens - 28-12-2009 at 12:25

I can't wait to give birth! My belly would pass for about 3 weeks past due! I do hope that you are pregnant Quaver and that all goes well!


Quaver - 31-12-2009 at 14:58

Ahem, my period seems to be on its way, so better luck cycle 2kewl_glasses


waffler - 1-1-2010 at 03:19

Keep going for it . You know they say Practice makes Perfect , so enjoy practicing . :D


Quaver - 10-1-2010 at 09:05

I will be releasing my egg soon, pity hubby is away tomorrow night:(


John_Little - 10-1-2010 at 10:50

You could try holding your breath and keeping very still till he gets back.


Quaver - 10-1-2010 at 11:27

Quote:
Originally posted by John_Little
You could try holding your breath and keeping very still till he gets back.

rolls_eyes


Quaver - 5-2-2010 at 14:14

Just a little update, I probably ovulated on 29th Jan. We did our thing on 27th so here's hoping it wasn't too early/late:)


John_Little - 5-2-2010 at 14:24

Two days early seems a bit much. I'm pretty sure they take quite a while to get to the egg but not two days. Have you googled?

Oh, yes, you said. On 27th.:D


Quaver - 5-2-2010 at 14:54

Quote:
Originally posted by John_Little
Two days early seems a bit much. I'm pretty sure they take quite a while to get to the egg but not two days. Have you googled?

Oh, yes, you said. On 27th.:D

Of course I've googled till my eyes popped:D
I don't know, it's down to luck I guess;)


LSemmens - 6-2-2010 at 11:41

A googly egg is part of the process, so I've been told! :P


Quaver - 8-2-2010 at 15:39

Perhaps my egg was not Googly enough, I got negative on home pregnancy test this morning:(

It was a bit early (10 days past ovulation), I was going to test on Thursday, but gave in to temptation. Bad move, now I don't have any tests at home. I don't think I could get one until Friday now (without anyone knowing - which is the point)lips_sealed


marymary100 - 8-2-2010 at 19:25

Fingers crossed.


Daz - 8-2-2010 at 20:23

Are you going through IVF/IUI/etc Q...?


Quaver - 9-2-2010 at 03:20

Quote:
Originally posted by Daz
Are you going through IVF/IUI/etc Q...?

Not yet - but I'm open to the idea:)


Quaver - 9-2-2010 at 03:22

Quote:
Originally posted by marymary100
Fingers crossed.

waveysmiley


marymary100 - 9-2-2010 at 22:27

Have fun, have sex... and other baby-making tips.


the bear - 10-2-2010 at 00:00

Quote:
Originally posted by Quaver
Quote:
Originally posted by Daz
Are you going through IVF/IUI/etc Q...?

Not yet - but I'm open to the idea:)



Q dont despair, your a long way off going down the IVF route
give things time, mother nature knows best.

Take care.


Regards the Bear waveysmiley


Daz - 10-2-2010 at 01:08

Quote:
Originally posted by the bear
give things time, mother nature knows best.

Take care.


Regards the Bear waveysmiley


Is the right answer!!!

Having spent years going through it, it's a seriously hard issue to go through, extremely stressful, emotional and very tough on the wallet. We got lucky after 7 years of trying, and five years worth of treatments when Mrs Daz fell naturally. (Good job he's a "Mini Me" or questions would've been asked!!! Lol)

I've got friends going through it now, and it brings back all sorts of memories, and I'm seeing cracks in their relationship show because of the stress.

It's a road that needs to be taken with eyes fully open...


scholar - 10-2-2010 at 01:49

Well said, Bear and Daz.

Sometimes assistance is helpful from the medical arts, but there's no reason to bring it in when it is not needed.


Quaver - 10-2-2010 at 02:21

Quote:
Originally posted by marymary100
Have fun, have sex... and other baby-making tips.

Great article. I was thinking of getting that Clearblue Fertility monitor and this sounds good too:

Create Health Clinic in London offers a one-stop fertility check for 200, including a 3D detailed ultrasound scan for egg reserve, uterus and blood flow to uterus and ovaries, as well as a consultation with a gynaecologist.

But I agree, we should give the old natural method a chance.
Mum said to give a rest to temperature taking.
I can do that, but since I'm not seeing hubby until April, I don't see much harm in continuing until Aprilconfused2


Quaver - 10-2-2010 at 02:25

Quote:
Originally posted by Daz
after 7 years of trying, and five years worth of treatments when Mrs Daz fell naturally.

I wonder if it was that 'trying too hard' that prevented the pregnancy?
Quote:
(Good job he's a "Mini Me" or questions would've been asked!!! Lol)

roffle


Quaver - 10-2-2010 at 02:25

Quote:
Originally posted by the bear
Q dont despair, your a long way off going down the IVF route
give things time, mother nature knows best.

Take care.


Regards the Bear waveysmiley

Thank youwaveysmiley


LSemmens - 10-2-2010 at 12:27

Quote:
Originally posted by Quaver
Quote:
Originally posted by Daz
after 7 years of trying, and five years worth of treatments when Mrs Daz fell naturally.

I wonder if it was that 'trying too hard' that prevented the pregnancy?
Quote:
(Good job he's a "Mini Me" or questions would've been asked!!! Lol)

roffle

Therein lies the rub. We had friends who at a late stage in life had not managed to successfully conceive using all of the various methods, IVF and so forth. They adopted and eventually had a child by "natural" means. i.e. no IVF or other treatments. The doctor commented that this was often the case. They were, unintentionally, putting so much pressure on themselves that it worked against them. Once they gave up trying, nature took its joyous course.


Quaver - 10-2-2010 at 13:04

Quote:
Originally posted by LSemmens
Once they gave up trying, nature took its joyous course.

Are you saying I should give up thenshocked_yellow
That'll be hard. I can pretend though:D


LSemmens - 10-2-2010 at 15:45

Nope. Just relax and enjoy the ride, or otherwise, as the case may be! :D;)


marymary100 - 10-2-2010 at 18:09

Enjoy being with your husband. Don't see the baby as the goal. It helps cement your relationship at the very least.


Daz - 10-2-2010 at 22:57

Quote:
Originally posted by LSemmens
Therein lies the rub. We had friends who at a late stage in life had not managed to successfully conceive using all of the various methods, IVF and so forth. They adopted and eventually had a child by "natural" means. i.e. no IVF or other treatments. The doctor commented that this was often the case. They were, unintentionally, putting so much pressure on themselves that it worked against them. Once they gave up trying, nature took its joyous course.


Yes, exactly what I was saying. IMHO, as Mrs D knew we were days away from starting another batch of treatment, she enjoyed the moment, and forgot about the objective. Result, and a nice surprise on the scan couple of weeks later... "Baby making" under orders is very regimented, and not much fun at all if truth be told. For either the man or the woman.


John Barnes - 11-2-2010 at 02:13

I once read in some book that keep a pillow under your rear all night after the act.( think about it) its so the swimmers will go the right way,jmb


Quaver - 11-2-2010 at 06:51

Quote:
Originally posted by John Barnes
I once read in some book that keep a pillow under your rear all night after the act.( think about it) its so the swimmers will go the right way,jmb

I've heard about that, haven't tried it yet, worth a try methinks:)

Not thinking about making babies while you do, you know what is easier said than done though:angel

I could say to hubby, I've ovulated yesterday so this is for fun now, and I could trick him, but it is harder to trick myself:(


dr john - 11-2-2010 at 10:33

Relax, and just remember, practice makes perfect (and try, try, try again, another useful proverb.)
All those old sayings we learned seem made for a situation like this ;) :D


LSemmens - 11-2-2010 at 12:09

Besides, ain't it fun trying?;):D


Quaver - 13-2-2010 at 12:29

Quote:
Originally posted by dr john
Relax, and just remember, practice makes perfect (and try, try, try again, another useful proverb.)
All those old sayings we learned seem made for a situation like this ;) :D

It was for making babies?shocked_yellow:D
Quote:
Originally posted by LSemmens
Besides, ain't it fun trying?;):D

What shall we do if we have a babyconfused2


LSemmens - 14-2-2010 at 13:14

Quote:
Originally posted by Quaver
What shall we do if we have a babyconfused2
You'll be very happy, and great parents!:D


Quaver - 16-2-2010 at 10:11

Period arrived yesterday:(

This is the summary of my 2 cycles we tried, doing the deed 4 or 5 days before ovulation does not work. I think it needs to be closer than that to have a chance (I knew that, but does he?);)

Shall I tell him or whatconfused2

Our next encounter is April so I have lot's of time...


Mary2 - 16-2-2010 at 11:06

I'll U2U you from my other account Q if you really want advice on this as I've already been through it all.


Quaver - 16-2-2010 at 12:10

Quote:
Originally posted by Mary2
I'll U2U you from my other account Q if you really want advice on this as I've already been through it all.

Yes please! waveysmiley


Quaver - 17-4-2010 at 05:32

Hubby has been away for a week, he came back yesterday, and we done the thing. It was 15th day of my cycle.

Temp went up this morning (ie have ovulated).
Now was that enough or was that too late? Will find out sometime in May...


the bear - 17-4-2010 at 05:53

Quote:
Originally posted by Quaver
Hubby has been away for a week, he came back yesterday, and we done the thing. It was 15th day of my cycle.

Temp went up this morning (ie have ovulated).
Now was that enough or was that too late? Will find out sometime in May...



Very clinical!!!


Regards the Bear


Quaver - 17-4-2010 at 06:24

Quote:
Originally posted by the bear
Very clinical!!!

:P


LSemmens - 18-4-2010 at 11:33

Cross your legs and pray for the best! ;)


giron - 18-4-2010 at 23:11

It's a little difficult to get impregnated if you cross your legs, or so I've been told.


Quaver - 19-4-2010 at 00:10

Quote:
Originally posted by giron
It's a little difficult to get impregnated if you cross your legs, or so I've been told.

roffle

(Temperature has gown down, so I haven't ovulated yet:()


LSemmens - 19-4-2010 at 13:39

Quote:
Originally posted by giron
It's a little difficult to get impregnated if you cross your legs, or so I've been told.
Quaver, herself, said that they had "done the thing", so I suggested that she not let the little buggas escape!


Quaver - 9-6-2010 at 09:16

A little update, I went to the fertility specialist, and was told I have PCOS (ovary problem). Not unexpected, since I have a sister with that, and most probably my mum too (undiagnosed). My cycles were irregular from the beginning, as were my sister/mother, so hey-ho.

Good news is, the doctor said it is easily remedied (yeah right) with Clomid (ovulation inducing drug), so he'll put me on it from my next cycle as soon as he checks the hormones etc via blood test next week.
I don't mind blood tests, even though I fainted last time:D

I had ultrasound too, and the doctor said I'll be fertile next week, pity hubby is awayrolls_eyes

Have to provide hubby's sample by Friday, but for some reason, hubby is nervousconfused2 It's not like there would be any problem with his sample since we conceived ok last time.

I think the fact that I said 'I need it tomorrow morning before you go to work' made him nervous. I have to get the sample to the hospital within 1 hr (hospital is 10min taxi ride away).
How hard could that be?:huh)


Daz - 9-6-2010 at 10:27

Quote:
Originally posted by Quaver

How hard could that be?:huh)


It's very hard TBH. I've been there quite a few times, and it's not pleasant. It brings into play all sorts of emotions that would never normally enter your mind when doing that particular deed and the pressure you feel under really doesn't help the situation at all. For me at least, I found it a very difficult experience. He has my sympathies, and I'd be happy to offer my ear to him.

As chance would have it for me, I bumped into my boiler repair man in the clinic, and we really helped each by having a fellow chap to speak to who was going through the same thing, as neither of our wives really understood just how difficult it was. Knocking one off in a pot sounds easy and something every bloke could do with his eyes shut, the fact is, it's very different when under pressure and doing it on command with such an important thing riding on the outcome.


Quaver - 9-6-2010 at 11:04

Thanks Daz. It is hard for me to understand:(

It is only for semen analysis, and we are not making a baby with the sample, but I suppose that won't make him less nervous?

I did tell him if the sample comes back not good, we can try again in 3 months time.

Are there anything I could do to help?


LSemmens - 9-6-2010 at 13:52

When we had to do that deed, Q, after I had had the chop, we did it together, SWMBO did most of the hard work and then as I was ready to explode, she did the catching (in the jar), I then had to drive to the city to deliver it.


Quaver - 9-6-2010 at 14:19

Quote:
Originally posted by LSemmens
SWMBO did most of the hard work and then as I was ready to explode, she did the catching (in the jar),

That's by hand? Did you do it on the bed? (No need to answer if you don't want to)waveysmiley


John_Little - 9-6-2010 at 14:31

I was tempted to do the joke about getting the lid off but the subject is too serious for brevity.


Quaver - 9-6-2010 at 14:47

Quote:
Originally posted by John_Little
I was tempted to do the joke about getting the lid off but the subject is too serious for brevity.

:D

It's not that serious, hubby & I are laughing about it.
Shall we have breakfast before or after? (After)
Should I wear anything? Are you going to wear anything?
roffle

He wants to leave it until Friday morning now rolls_eyes


Daz - 9-6-2010 at 18:33

Quote:
Originally posted by John_Little
I was tempted to do the joke about getting the lid off but the subject is too serious for brevity.


You have to make light of it, otherwise it'll destroy you both. (Too many failures = Much heartache, but you still have to laugh about it somehow.)

@ Q. - We did it all ways. I did it on my own, with and without pron, we did it together, with Mrs D in some sexy clobber on occasion, we even had a "sterile" condom thingy which collected the goods. It gets easier as time goes by, and the humour will kick in, but it never became a walk in the park. (Hmmm, maybe we should've tried that route eh?!) ;)


scholar - 10-6-2010 at 02:19

Quote:
Originally posted by Quaver
I don't mind blood tests, even though I fainted last time:D
You don't mind something over which you faint? That is unusual.smokin::P:P

I get blood extracted at least weekly, so I am an old hand at it. :D


Quaver - 10-6-2010 at 08:13

Quote:
Originally posted by scholar
Quote:
Originally posted by Quaver
I don't mind blood tests, even though I fainted last time:D
You don't mind something over which you faint? That is unusual.smokin::P:P

I get blood extracted at least weekly, so I am an old hand at it. :D

Low blood pressure runs in the family, and we all have tendency to faint or get light headed. Nothing unusual. Just need to mention that to the nurse when sitting down on the floor:D

I think I'll mention the tendency before I get bloods done this time, so to avoid the utter chaos I caused last timelips_sealed
(I did say I'm feeling faint, so I need to sit down for a minute. There was absolutely no need to get a me to walk to another room with a bed, which caused me to collapse completelywaggyfinger).

In my defence, I have fainted before, but not when I had my bloods taken. That was the first and only time (also was pregnant at the time with morning sickness).


Quaver - 10-6-2010 at 08:22

Although hubby said he'll do the sample on Friday, this morning after breakfast, he suddenly announced he wants to try it nowshocked_yellow

So we did it! It worked:)
I've taken it safely to the hospital, so all went well.

I tried to help, but I was not quite up to standard (too strong), so I provided something to touch:D

Thanks Daz and Leigh for your insight. Without that, I would probably have said something really insensitive lips_sealed


John_Little - 10-6-2010 at 09:31

I find it best to wedge it in the door frame.


Quaver - 10-6-2010 at 10:24

Quote:
Originally posted by John_Little
I find it best to wedge it in the door frame.

Sounds painful...lips_sealed


John_Little - 10-6-2010 at 11:24

Only if you catch your fingers


Mary2 - 10-6-2010 at 11:45

shocked_yellow


LSemmens - 10-6-2010 at 13:23

Thanks, John, made I larf, but only at your misfortune! :D

Just remember Daz, keep smiling, this will bring you and Mr Daz closer and will also give you some fond memories in your dotage! Who knows, you may even get to share it with your younguns one day. Though, if they be like ours, screws nose up, "eeeeewwww! Too much information!!!" We do have a good and open relationship with our kids and can talk about anything.


Mary2 - 10-6-2010 at 16:33

I think you mean Quaver and Mr Q or else Daz is being a bit of a bad boy... ;)


Daz - 10-6-2010 at 17:44

Quote:
Originally posted by Mary2
I think you mean Quaver and Mr Q or else Daz is being a bit of a bad boy... ;)


shocked_yellow

lips_sealed

:D


Quaver - 11-6-2010 at 02:06

Quote:
Originally posted by Mary2
I think you mean Quaver and Mr Q or else Daz is being a bit of a bad boy... ;)

shocked_yellowwaggyfinger


LSemmens - 11-6-2010 at 12:10

Quote:
Originally posted by Mary2
I think you mean Quaver and Mr Q or else Daz is being a bit of a bad boy... ;)


ROFLMAO! Gee! I made a big woopsie there, didn't I!

Yes, I did mean Mrs & Mr Quaver.


Sorry, Daz, I didn't really mean it!flowers_kf Peaces, pleeeeeze! redface


Quaver - 16-6-2010 at 05:20

Hubby's sperm analysis came back with asthenoteratozoospermia. He was given Vitamin E tablets and some herbal thing called Exsativa to take everyday. Dr didn't seem too concerned but I Googledshocked_yellow

Hope it improves...

As for me, I was given something to induce period, and Clomid to induce ovulation. The egg is taking its time, it is 7mm today, and it should be 2cm. It is on Quaver time:D (the usual late ovulation)

Hope Clomid works in inducing early ovulation, it's OK either way, if it works great, but won't coincide with hubby, if it's late then it'll meet hubby's swimmerskewl_glasses


marymary100 - 16-6-2010 at 06:08

For him: boxers, no alcohol

For you: relaxation tapes, candles and plenty of rest.


Quaver - 16-6-2010 at 07:37

Quote:
Originally posted by marymary100
For him: boxers, no alcohol

Both will be hard for him, but will ask...redface


John_Little - 16-6-2010 at 08:33

Quote:
Asthenoteratozoospermia


that's quite a mouthful.


LSemmens - 16-6-2010 at 12:14

That name looks like some zoological specimen, are you sure that is a real "disease"?

I hope it all works for you!


John_Little - 16-6-2010 at 12:48

I think you are thinking of Aardvaarks, Leigh.


Quaver - 16-6-2010 at 13:18

Quote:
Originally posted by LSemmens
That name looks like some zoological specimen, are you sure that is a real "disease"?

roffle


Quaver - 18-6-2010 at 16:43

Quote:
Originally posted by marymary100
For him: boxers, no alcohol

Neither worked, never mindwaggyfinger


marymary100 - 18-6-2010 at 16:46

And it won't that fast. It's a 3 month plan. ;)


Daz - 18-6-2010 at 17:48

Quote:
Originally posted by marymary100
And it won't that fast. It's a 3 month plan. ;)


Aye, sadly nothing seems quick about the whole artificial baby making procedure. Except maybe the money disappearing out your wallet at a rate of knots!

Slowly, slowly catchy monkey. (And therein lies another problem, I really did up with a proper cheeky monkey at the end of it all. ;))


Quaver - 19-6-2010 at 01:25

Quote:
Originally posted by marymary100
And it won't that fast. It's a 3 month plan. ;)

I meant hubby won't change his underwear or alcohol habits:(


Quaver - 19-6-2010 at 01:26

Quote:
Originally posted by Daz
Quote:
Originally posted by marymary100
And it won't that fast. It's a 3 month plan. ;)


Aye, sadly nothing seems quick about the whole artificial baby making procedure. Except maybe the money disappearing out your wallet at a rate of knots!

Slowly, slowly catchy monkey. (And therein lies another problem, I really did up with a proper cheeky monkey at the end of it all. ;))

So long as it works in the end...


Nimuae - 19-6-2010 at 07:54

Quote:

I meant hubby won't change his underwear


Never ? Eeek !


John_Little - 19-6-2010 at 08:07

I'm not too keen on the loose fitting kind, either.


Quaver - 19-6-2010 at 22:48

Quote:
Originally posted by Nimuae
Quote:

I meant hubby won't change his underwear


Never ? Eeek !

roffle


giron - 20-6-2010 at 21:23

Why bother to change them?

They only get dirty again. lips_sealed


Quaver - 14-7-2010 at 13:59

Little update, seen my doctor today, and he said Clomid worked well and the egg is growing nicely, and I should ovulate this Saturday!
cheerieleader

Yes, I know there is only 20% chance of conceiving/perfect timed cycle, and there's less chance since my hubby's swimmers is 99% bad, but can't help hopingredface

The doctor said my ovaries, uterus lining and egg looks goodkewl_glasses


John_Little - 14-7-2010 at 17:08

Right. Fingers crossed.


LSemmens - 15-7-2010 at 00:07

I'm praying that it all works for you Q! Just remember of the 39 million sperm cells in a typical.... only 1 needs to fertilize a cell, and if hubbies are only 1% viable, that still means that 39,000 are still good. If you chuck 39,000 balls at the goal, even blind folded, surely one must go in! ;)


John_Little - 15-7-2010 at 06:42

Unless you're in the England team, of course.


LSemmens - 15-7-2010 at 12:05

roffle


Quaver - 15-7-2010 at 13:26

Quote:
Originally posted by John_Little
Unless you're in the England team, of course.

roffle


Queen of Ra - 15-7-2010 at 16:50

Hi Quaver,

I have only just caught up on your quest, but I would like to add my best wishes to you too.

:)

QOR


Quaver - 16-7-2010 at 07:28

Thanks QORwaveysmiley


LSemmens - 16-7-2010 at 12:44

Hey, Queenie, can't you issue some sort of royal decree along the lines that Quavers eggs and Mr Q's swimmers had better do their job or they'll be for the chopping block or the like?waveysmiley


Quaver - 20-7-2010 at 12:59

A bit of a rant.

Doc said to do the dance every night.

Me: I don't think hubby can do that, can we do every other night?
Doc: That's fine.
Me: Which days shall we do?
Doc: Friday night and Monday morning.

Back home, hubby said, let's try every night:banana)

Friday night went fine.
Saturday night went fine.

Sunday morning I got 'Peak' on my fertility monitorkewl_glasses (You get 89% better chance of conceiving if we do the dance on the Peak day and/or the day after.)

That was it.
Sunday night hubby couldn't finish it, nor on Mondayrolls_eyes
Great huh? Men and their egos. I knew he couldn't do it every nightrant0000

There goes the 89% and the expensive Fertility monitor. What's the point of buying them if we are not going to use it?

I thought I'll rant away here, since I'm acting cool and un-bothered in front of my hubby
rant0000


marymary100 - 20-7-2010 at 13:36

shocked_yellow


John_Little - 20-7-2010 at 15:25

:huh)


Quaver - 20-7-2010 at 15:33

OK, I mumbled:D

Hubby couldn't deliver his goods on the day my eggs came down.
He tried, but it just didn't come.

I said we should try every other day, but he insisted he could do every day. He was wrong, and we missed the egg yet again (unless his swimmers can survive for 48hrs which is very unlikely since his swimmers are less than perfect).

What I want to say is 'I told you so', but I won't.
I'll just post my mumblings hererolls_eyes


Daz - 20-7-2010 at 20:16

I don't know how this will go down, not well likely, but I'll say it anyway, having had 5, nearly 6 years of experience of this whole heavy scene. I'll also offer my apologies in advance. :)

IVF, and the like is hard going, for both parties. Most of us blokes are not great at the whole communication thing, but like to think we're very good at the "lady dance" thing. It's a massive dent in most men's psyche to know their firing duds, add the whole "on demand" thing in the equation, and well, it's easy to become over whelmed with it all, and easily soul destroyed. (Never admitting it out loud, 'natch.)

Performing to timetables, and on demand sounds real easy, until in the situation, and you're seeing the expectation in your partners eyes, and the hope in her heart that every dance you do, is THE dance, and this time it will have worked while she lays legs pointed ceiling wise, nothing needs to be said, but the pressure, month after month, try after try, year after year, becomes a real hard emotion to deal with pretty quick... Then, mostly, reality comes back and kicks you in the teeth next month, and the whole heart wrenching thing of seeing your partner go through it all starts again...

I don't know how you are pushed for time, Q, (biologically) but the more relaxed you both can be, without putting yourselves under pressure will more rewarding, both at the time you dance, and for gaining that dancing medal... ;) Mrs D felt she was running out time, (very debatable TBH, buts what she felt) which only intensified her emotions, desires and the pressure for us both.

Once Mrs D put the idea of babies out her mind and we danced, because we wanted to dance, not to produce something, we hit the jackpot. (The day before we began the next batch of treatment.)

All much easier said than done, granted.

I wish you both well. (and apologies again.)

Now, I'm off to be all macho and blokey elsewhere.... Enough of this. :D


John_Little - 20-7-2010 at 20:57

Excellent post, Daz.


the bear - 20-7-2010 at 23:57

I hear that Daz, as commited as hubby may be circumstance will very quickly reduce him to the level of a sperm donor to be used on demand.
The "dance" is supposed to be an act of love not an act of contrision.

"Clinical" brow beats "Togetherness"


Regards the Bear


Quaver - 21-7-2010 at 00:02

Thanks Daz, for sharing such a personal experience.

It is all too easy to forget hubby's feelings, he doesn't show much redface
We are pressed for time as well, age wise, we wanted two kids. I'll settle for one though;)


LSemmens - 21-7-2010 at 01:38

A thought, Q, friends were in much the same position as you and could not conceive to the end that they eventually adopted. After that, the "pressure" was off and they did manage to naturally conceive and carry two more children even though they were both in their late forties at the time. I'm not saying that you should adopt a child just for this process, that would be wrong, in the extreme. But, it could be worth considering if your sincerely desire to love a small child and raise it to be a person after your own heart.


Quaver - 21-7-2010 at 10:01

Late fortiesshocked_yellowshocked_yellowshocked_yellow
I don't know if I want a baby that late though, I'd be 70 when the child graduates unidrop_down

We haven't talked about adoption yet, but might consider after IVF.


LSemmens - 21-7-2010 at 13:35

:) I know your thinking, there, Q. I have a friend who, for his 60th was feeding his youngest (1 yo). His wife is several years his junior. My ambition was to live long enough to be a problem for my kids, at the rate I am going, I expect to be a problem for my great grandchildren, and, just possibly, great-great grandchildren.


Quaver - 16-10-2010 at 01:07

Oh no! no! no!
We have 15mins to produce hubby's sample to take to the clinic, but we've been at it for nearly an hour, and nothing is coming!crybabyme

I'm having IUI (insemination with hubbys washed and treated swimmers using a catheter) today, my eggs are ready, probably already ovulated, and no swimmers!

Hubby is looking at some dubious pics on his PC (he wants to see it privately), and I'm anxiously waitingcry_mouse

If we miss this window, it's next month, and I was thinking of giving it a rest next cycle as I've had lots of injections and medication to prepare for this, and want a break:(

(Note: I'm not in the UK;)).


scholar - 16-10-2010 at 02:49

Oh, Q, I hope he was able to produce in time.

The distraction/pressure of performing on demand is an understandable problem for us males.:(


the bear - 16-10-2010 at 02:55

"Q" a little rest may do both of you good, re affirm the hand holding and the candle lit oily back rubs, leave the PC switched off, just fall asleep in each others arms. Come back to the task in hand refreshed. Different approach, different results.


Sincere regards the Bear


Quaver - 16-10-2010 at 05:33

Thank you bothredface

He did produce in the end, I took the sample to the clinic alone, as hubby did not have time to change or energy. I handed it in only 20 minutes late.

I've done my IUI now, the doctor said the sample was very disappointing...:( Seems taking vitamins and supplements since June was not enough.

Oh well, will hope for the best, and prepare for another cyclerolls_eyes


LSemmens - 16-10-2010 at 10:53

We're thinking of you both. My young son and his wife have been desperately trying to produce another offspring, but time is against them, she is in her 40s and has suffered several miscarriages, which has been heart-wrenching. They can, at least take comfort in their son (3) and her daughters (7 and 20) from a previous relationship. The 20 year old now has 2 of her own.


Quaver - 17-10-2010 at 03:45

Hope your son and daughter-in-law have another baby soon:)


the bear - 17-10-2010 at 03:56

Quote:
Originally posted by Quaver
Thank you bothredface

He did produce in the end, I took the sample to the clinic alone, as hubby did not have time to change or energy. I handed it in only 20 minutes late.

I've done my IUI now, the doctor said the sample was very disappointing...:( Seems taking vitamins and supplements since June was not enough.

Oh well, will hope for the best, and prepare for another cyclerolls_eyes


Q, Mrs Bear and myself feel for you, try not to get dispondant, take strength in each other, there's a right time for everything, your turn will come.

Regards the Bear


LSemmens - 17-10-2010 at 13:22

Thanks Quaver, it won't be for lack of trying! ;)


the bear - 19-10-2010 at 00:52

Quote:
Originally posted by LSemmens
Thanks Quaver, it won't be for lack of trying! ;)



The trying bit is the fun bit ;)



Regards the Bear waveysmiley


Quaver - 19-10-2010 at 08:05

Quote:
Originally posted by the bear
Quote:
Originally posted by LSemmens
Thanks Quaver, it won't be for lack of trying! ;)

The trying bit is the fun bit ;)

waggyfinger:D