John_Little - 20-1-2017 at 17:21
Just watched it. Interesting speech. Are they always that controversial?
Bill Clinton didn't look too good and seemed to keep right out of it all. But Jimmy Carter looked amazing for a 90 year old.
So. Here it begins.........
PS. I was reminded of the bit in The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe when Alsam gives himself up to the Ice Queens army to be killed on the stone.
marymary100 - 20-1-2017 at 18:21
Awful speech I thought. "America first" - echoes of Nazi sympathisers in the 30s.
John_Little - 20-1-2017 at 21:16
Funny you should say that. I just read exactly the same thought on another forum and that was from a Daily Mail reader!
Katzy - 20-1-2017 at 22:04
He and Farage would make a scary partnership.
waffler - 21-1-2017 at 00:33
Gonna be an interesting 4 years
LSemmens - 21-1-2017 at 01:38
Very interesting! I'll wait until I see a paragraph on his inauguration speech, rather than waste an hour listening to the waffle. So far the stock
market seems to be a bit "ho hum" so, only time will tell as to how he goes.
John_Little - 21-1-2017 at 10:42
scholar - 21-1-2017 at 22:31
Why would you say that?
On the day of the US election, when nearly everyone thought Hillary was going to win and the same policies would be followed, the Dow Jones average
was only $18,332.74.
The stock market in the US went up substantially after Trump was elected and the Republicans prevailed in both Houses of Congress. $19,827.2 was the
closing Dow Jones average on inauguration day. (I mention Congress as well as Trump because some are encouraged that economic-growth-friendly laws are
likely to be enacted by a Republican Congress, while others may think that Trump will take favorable action.)
If I had a index stock, I would be quite happy to have an increase of $1,495 in just over two months.
scholar - 21-1-2017 at 22:53
The rhetoric is plain, not lofty.
But, the message is clear--he wants the American government to do what best serves the American people.
marymary100 - 22-1-2017 at 01:02
Ye gods scholar. At least you could have posted the link instead of C+Ping all that rhetoric. We were commenting on what we had seen already. Now we
need to do endless scrolling to get to the rest of the conversation.
On a side note however, it is good that the Scottish plan to take over the free world has finally succeeded.
LSemmens - 22-1-2017 at 06:00
An 8% change in the stock value is nothing to be sneezed at, however, spot price is not a long term trend, again +/-8% in the course of a day or so is
not unusual in the stock markets. I'll wait a few months to see what the real trend is.
Katzy - 22-1-2017 at 10:23
He's gonna be for all Americans...
He's killing care for all.
He's gonna make global warming his priority, rather than trying to cut it.
He's also cutting a lot of the help that the disadvantaged get.
Typical right-winger. Survival of the fittest and screw the rest, just like our Tories and UKIP.
In your situation, Scholar, you'll be one of the first up against the wall.
marymary100 - 22-1-2017 at 11:33
The difference is that scholar will be willingly going to the wall...
Katzy - 22-1-2017 at 15:18
Most Christians I know regard The Donald as he with the horns and forked tail.
scholar - 23-1-2017 at 01:35
Actually, Obamcare has been killing insured healthcare for millions of people by making it cost more than folks can afford to pay. Some simply can't
afford the sky-high Obamacare premiums. Others have bought the health insurance (the government fines you in the form of a tax penalty if you
don't), but find themselves with $4000 deductibles, and they can't afford to pay for health care out-of-pocket until the deductible is met because
the money is sucked out of their paychecks by the insurance premiums. When people drop their insurance because they can't afford it, the insurance
companies have to wring enough money out of those still buying insurance to cover the medical costs, so the premiums have to go up again. In several
states, the death spiral has led to insurance companies leaving the market. When only one is left, the sole survivor gets the advantage of charging
rates only a monopoly can charge.
Obamacare killed the Christian charity healthcare I used to have.
Nimuae - 23-1-2017 at 08:00
Donald Trump is lower than 'trailer trash' and americans should be ashamed of themselves for allowing him into the white house.
JackInCT - 23-1-2017 at 15:49
Maybe the root problem is that any/all politicians at their core are "trash", and no political system can ever be created that has truly workable
checks and balances to deal with man-made problems. And IMO that's especially true from the perspective of the tyranny of the majority. Society's
pliers are mass conformity based on lies/half-truths/overt discrimination/etc., based on 'do it because I say so'. It's no wonder the teen-age
years are what they are because of all the hypocrisy that they suddenly realize exists, and then they also find that they are totally powerless to do
anything about it (at least from the perspective of 'working to create change from within the "system").
Katzy - 24-1-2017 at 09:45
I'm no fan of his wife. But, after seeing her face, here, I worry for her.
John_Little - 24-1-2017 at 09:59
She's got more sense and decorum than him. I dont think you'll be,seeing much of her.
marymary100 - 25-1-2017 at 00:02
Married for money, got caught out by his political ambitions.
marymary100 - 25-1-2017 at 00:09
Transcript and analysis of speech
LSemmens - 25-1-2017 at 02:52
Thanks Mary, looks like it was written by a politician.
John_Little - 25-1-2017 at 09:12
But its just the written speech with an analysis. It doesn't include the ad-libs and repeats with their "Jabba the Hutt" rephrasing.
Katzy - 25-1-2017 at 20:50
Is Trump related to Kim Jong Un?
LSemmens - 26-1-2017 at 23:23
I would hope that this is only a temporary thing. Does that mean that all reports have to be "approved" before they can even gain peer review? I'm
glad I'm not living there, it sounds like we might be in for another dictatorship.
Katzy - 27-1-2017 at 13:34
That's what the Tories are trying to achieve, here.
Heaven help us.