insomnia thread drift
Swish Checkley - 27-10-2009 at 13:35
Hi Scholar, thanks for your suggestion and I heartily agree that worrying about not sleeping aggravates the problem! I'm currently receiving
bereavement counselling and medication for depression which seems to be helping. I'm uncomfortable with the concept of hypnosis, which is a shame
really becuase it's one of the few things I haven't yet tried!
marymary100 - 27-10-2009 at 16:21
I use relaxation techniques including visualisation. I find that more often than not actually thinking "feet, feet go to sleep; ankles, ankles go to
sleep" etc works for me. I seldom get as far as the shoulders.
Swish Checkley - 27-10-2009 at 19:33
I've found I can achieve physical relaxation by doing that, unfortunately my brain doesn't switch off so easily. Even when I'm sleeping 'well' it
takes a minimum of half an hour for me to get to sleep.
victor - 27-10-2009 at 21:38
I did this when I was having trouble getting to sleep the only trouble was I run out of body parts when I first tried it and then started with
individual toes then soles of the feet then arches needless to say by the time I got to my thighs I was asleep.
Another one is to imagine you are lying in a canoe floating down a river on a warm sunny day looking at the sky through a canopy of branches insects
buzzing around whilst your hands are stroking the water.
Oops nearly fell asleep then.
Dreamweaver - 27-10-2009 at 21:45
I seem to have no problem getting to sleep, my problem is remaining asleep..............
marymary100 - 27-10-2009 at 21:59
That's similar to another one I do where I leave a beautiful country cottage and wander by a stream in very warm sunlight. I sit
by the stream and put my hand in while the water babbles.
victor - 27-10-2009 at 22:04
I have that problem at the moment suspected carpal tunnel in my right hand wakes me up after an hour and then continuously through the night haven't
had a good nights sleep for over a month or more.
scholar - 28-10-2009 at 00:43
I'll say a word about hypnosis, in response to Swish's
objection to it. I'm not trying to club you on the head about it, O Swish--you're certainly free to hold any opinion or preference.
I think objecting to hypnosis is like the person who objects to vitamins (while he is already consuming vitamins in his ordinary diet), or who objects
to exercise (while he is already exercising whenever he moves). People commonly move in and out of trances as a natural, routine part of their lives.
A trance can compress or elongate your sense of the rate that time passes. Have you ever experienced this phenomenon? You become so completely
involved in an engrossing movie, or a sports event, or a game in which you participate, that one or two or three hours pass and it seems as if it has
only been a few minutes. Or, you drive along a monotonous road (LSemmens' country has some, I hear; there are places in the US where one can drive
for hundreds of miles and the flat farmland all looks the same), and you suddenly "wake up" to the realization that you've driven for some hours
but it seemed like it had been minutes, mentally. Athletes commonly get trance effects when they are engaged in their sports--their focus on the
ball, or their task, or their opponents, is one of heightened perception, while everything else is blocked out.
Bandler and Grinder used to say they disagreed about hypnosis. One said, "There is no such thing"--because you can get every hypnotic effect
without going through a hypnotic induction. The other said, "Everything is hypnosis"--because hypnotic trance effects are so universally present.
delanti - 28-10-2009 at 02:04
At Wal-Mart the other day I stopped and was listening to some relaxing music they had playing. Made me want to take a nap right there.
Swish Checkley - 28-10-2009 at 08:35
Me too, so I've been losing sleep at the start of the night, during the middle of the night and at the morning end too.
Swish Checkley - 28-10-2009 at 08:35
Clubbing me over the head may help me sleep
Quaver - 28-10-2009 at 08:44
I don't try to sleep, if I can't then I can't.
I just lay awake with my laptop in bed.
I try not to take naps if I've been up all night.
I hate not being able to sleep
If you have laptop in bed, doing Solitaire or Sudoku helps dosing off rather than reading up and doing forums.
John_Little - 28-10-2009 at 08:58
I've successfully tried the one body part at a time routine and the walking through a warm spring meadow thing. But as Swish says, sometimes your
body relaxes but your mind wont let go.
In those circumstances, I've found it helps to think of something else. something quite boring. I've tried counting backwards from 100 and even
200 and thinking of the alphabet backwards and rarely make it all the way in one go.
As for the carpal tunnel thing. This I was told I had that but I think its just a fashionable diagnosis doing the rounds with GPs. I had that
tingling feeling in certain fingers but put it down to a nerve in my shoulder because I had been doing some heavy pushing of caravans before it
I do suffer from arthritis and have had sciatica whicfh is basically due to inflamation of the joint affecting the nerves. I was talking to one of
our members yesterday who was told she had carpal tunnel syndrome and then had a blood clot and was also diagnosed as suffering from Fibroids. I'm
not a doctor, but from what she told me, the fibroids could be responsible for all the symptoms.
Quaver - 28-10-2009 at 09:37
I like fashionable
LSemmens - 28-10-2009 at 12:56
If you have some quiet music, you could have that on quietly in the background. I often go to sleep listening to the Goon Show! Not exactly quiet
music, but relaxing, nevertheless. I also find that listening to, say, an interesting talk (in my case, sermons or lectures) without any intent to
memorise it can also lull your senses, as long as the speaker isn't too animated or s/he may just jar you out of your rest as you are dosing off.
Swish Checkley - 28-10-2009 at 16:00
I get irritated by noises! I need silence to sleep, I can on a good night cope with Mr Swish breathing if I'm wearing ear plugs! (awkward b****r aint
Swish Checkley - 28-10-2009 at 16:01
I tried that starting at 300 and got all the way back to zero
victor - 28-10-2009 at 21:16
You defiantly would not like this.
Trapped nerves was my thoughts John when I first went to the doctor and that's what I told him being as I had suffered with it before so he put me on
anti depressants, but on the second visit a fortnight later I saw a different doctor and it turned out they had been discussing it and this one has
got me down for a carpal tunnel test at the hospital.
Quaver - 29-10-2009 at 08:19
Hope you are better.
John_Little - 29-10-2009 at 08:59
I suppose if there is a test for it that works then that's good. But I still think you are right with your own diagnosis. With me, it started after
I'd been pushing caravans all day with my shoulder.
I think carpal tunnel is only a form of inflammation anyway.