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LSemmens

[*] posted on 6-10-2017 at 03:15
With any form of addiction, be it drugs, tobacco, alcohol, gambling, or any other vice. Until you are willing to admit you have a problem, there is little anyone else can do about it. Any enforced rehabilitation sees a higher rate of recidivism than voluntary programs.

One mummy hating the country because "they" did not do something.... I can live with that.
JackInCT

[*] posted on 5-10-2017 at 20:17
On a country by country basis, since laws vary, and in the USA on a state by state basis, you could always get a great deal of information regarding being arrested, etc., by simply doing a search engine query something along the lines of 'can you be arrested for ODing on drugs' [ODing on drugs AND ODing as well as being in possession of drugs are different matters].

Be prepared for a very large number of hits that as per Logic 101 'lack' internal consistency re 'answers', and especially what happens then scenarios, legally and otherwise, to include involuntarily inpatient admissions to a drug treatment center/mental health facility, i. e., some sort of a health facility as opposed to a criminal justice facility, although some jails do have some sort of 'treatment' during the phase of 'illness' caused by drugs that exist to such a degree that the 'inmate' cannot be among the general prison population.

Being 'high' and ODing are also matters relating to this topic, such as is someone who has ODed, by definition, always unconscious according to the law???? Shall 'we' skip whether a blood test that can measure the level of illegal 'chemicals' in one's bloodstream enter into the picture???? And if so, does the prisoner/patient have to give informed consent to have that done???

And finally if you're transported to the hospital via ambulance in, let's call it in an OD state, when you regain consciousness, can you simply get up and leave if you want to?

I strongly urge everyone to forget about what they've seen in the movies/TV on the range of issues in this topic area.
LSemmens

[*] posted on 5-10-2017 at 08:18
I'm of your opinion, Mary, The problem with many, and not just addicts, is that "It's not my fault", or "Not my problem". Whilst it is saddening to hear of a life lost, the mum needs a reality check!
John_Little

[*] posted on 5-10-2017 at 07:36
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Ms DiPalermo contrasted the attitude of the Scottish police with that of the US authorities.
She said: "If someone was in the States and their mother came to the police and said what I said, and showed them what I showed them, they would have definitely got that person out of there. Absolutely.
"If someone is asking for help, give it to them."


...........right.............
marymary100

[*] posted on 5-10-2017 at 05:55
Under the circumstances the parent described I meant. We could section someone for 48 hours if they were thought to be suicidal but not hold them beyond that point against their will. The parent says that the police in America would have helped her more and I'm querying if that is true.


I think she is looking for someone to blame, but should be looking closer to home. Her daughter had addiction problems before she came to Scotland.
JackInCT

[*] posted on 4-10-2017 at 23:51
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Originally posted by marymary100
Do American police lock up American adults at the behest of their parents if they are addicts?


You've asked a very complicated question re such matters, as legal authority, jurisdiction, chargeable offense, and mental health laws re a commitment to an inpatient facility as opposed to a lockup. Your question also revolves around whether illegal drugs are found on the person or in their quarters/car where who has possession of them is ascertained (which does not mean that a court will view it that when adjudicated).
marymary100

[*] posted on 4-10-2017 at 22:03
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Holly Alexander moved from the US to Dundee to open a pizza shop with her husband in 2014.
Just over a year later the 37-year-old mother-of-three was stabbed to death in the flat she shared with known drug dealer Ronnie Kidd, who was also murdered.
The man who killed them, Krzysztof Gadecki, had been served with a deportation notice by the Home Office because he was on parole for a rape and robberies he had committed in his native Poland.
Double murderer to serve at least 26 years
During the court case, advocate depute Bill MacVicar said New York-born Ms Alexander was recovering from heroin addiction when she emigrated and she relapsed in Dundee.
Her relationship with her husband broke down.
Ms Alexander's mother, Lorraine DiPalermo, told the BBC she hated Scotland for letting her down and failing to help when she was trying desperately to get her daughter to leave...

Ms DiPalermo contrasted the attitude of the Scottish police with that of the US authorities.
She said: "If someone was in the States and their mother came to the police and said what I said, and showed them what I showed them, they would have definitely got that person out of there. Absolutely.
"If someone is asking for help, give it to them."




Do American police lock up American adults at the behest of their parents if they are addicts?

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