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Katzy

[*] posted on 11-11-2016 at 10:29
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Voters on both sides of the Atlantic backed Brexit and Donald Trump because of a “post truth” politics where the ability to convey a convincing narrative is more important than an argument based on facts



People, now, seem to think that the TV and newspaper companies tell the truth. Me? I don't believe anything, at all, that appears in the media. How sad is that? Even old Auntie BEEB has been shown to be biased. The Times, once a bastion of truth, is in the hands of Murdoch. They all have their own agendas. They mostly wanted us to vote Tory, in the last election, because the Tories would be better for them, not us.

Some can't see why we like Corbyn. Well, he's voted for everything, in the past, in ways that his conscience has directed him, even if that meant voting against his party's "line". He's been honest. Even when he was nominated for the party leadership, he didn't actually want it. He was just kinda making up the numbers. Nobody was more shocked then he was, when he won!

People who seek power are those that should never be allowed hold it.
John_Little

[*] posted on 11-11-2016 at 08:25
By the look of him and seeing him get so worked up, I don't reckon he'll last the distance. One way or another.
LSemmens

[*] posted on 11-11-2016 at 04:08
She was already working before her hubby was in public life and wanted to continue in that, where's the problem. I don't think that statement in any way demeans those who choose to stay home.
marymary100

[*] posted on 10-11-2016 at 23:42
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Trump has lowered the debate to a level which demeans the office he’s running for. His racist comments on Mexicans, combined with his proud Islamophobia, have trawled the depths of human decency.
At the same time, he has repeatedly and deliberately lied about his own pronouncements.
For example, he called for the US military to carry out war crimes by torturing captured terrorists in Syria and for the targeting of civilians in retaliation for the acts of family members.
At the same time, Trump has publicly abused the family of an American war hero who died while serving his country.
He has labelled Mexicans as rapists and attacked the ability of a judge to rule on a civil case involving one of his failed businesses because of his Mexican heritage. He has threatened to ban all Muslims from entering the United States.
More recently, recordings have emerged that show Trump boasting that his celebrity status means that he can do whatever he wants to women he meets.
“And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything,” he ominously declared on tape.



Yes, definitely more appealing than not wanting to bake cookies.
John_Little

[*] posted on 10-11-2016 at 22:10
And you need one like Trump, instead?
JackInCT

[*] posted on 10-11-2016 at 21:08
My choice for the content of this post is 'the ghost of things once said come back to haunt'. And YES, I remember this like it was yesterday.

Verbatim transcript of the initial portion of this interview on a USA TV program called "Nightline": full transcript can be had by using "hillary clinton baking cookies interview 1992".

I believe "VO" means 'voice over'.

Making Hillary Clinton An Issue

March 26, 1992

Correspondent: Jackie Judd

Anchor: Ted Koppel

TED KOPPEL (VO): Meet the new political wife. She has a career, she has opinions. A partner in every way.

GOV BILL CLINTON, (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: And my slogan might well be, "Buy one, get one free".

KOPPEL (VO): And now, she's become controversial.

HILLARY CLINTON: I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas, but what I decided to do was to fulfill my profession which I entered before my husband was in public life.

Me here: IMO anyone who believes that a lifestyle choice of staying home and baking cookies as a homemaker is beneath them is an elitist snob. That's what her persona projects, i. e., she lacks the common touch AKA empathy. The USA does not need, or want, a president like that.