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marymary100

[*] posted on 15-8-2016 at 11:00
All we know is that she had been questioned by the police earlier due to the escape of a former classmate and she was in contact with a Muslim from Scotland who had also gone to Syria. The girl in the OP stole family jewellery to pay for her flights etc. apparently. Her father was one of those involved in a protest organised by Anjem Choudary but this is allowed under UK law. The family she lived in take their religion seriously. The less predictable flights to Syria are those who come from non-religious families. As her family are religious, it is more likely than not that she was "sheltered". It is notable however that she was able to make her way to Gatwick so the family trusted her to be going where she said she was which is how she managed to join IS.
Badgergirl

[*] posted on 15-8-2016 at 09:03
Quote:
Originally posted by marymary100
Little girls only allowed out to study at school or attend the mosque see their friends with boyfriends, having a life. Along comes Sally Jones online telling them that they can marry and be the wives/widows of jihadis who are clearing sin from the world one country at a time. They did what seemed reasonable to them, having an adventure with little thought for the consequences to themselves and their families. Is it really any different to taking drugs, driving too fast or having sex with all and sundry at music festivals? Teenagers have brains which are not fully formed and research shows they find it really hard to imagine consequences.


However, if I were in the police I'd be looking VERY carefully at the family who have apparently been in contact the whole time she has been away.


How sheltered had she been before though?
LSemmens

[*] posted on 12-8-2016 at 22:48
They flew from Gatwick??? begs some questions.
a) where did they get the air fare from?
b) would they not have needed a passport?
surely their age would have begged a few questions like:
c) where are your parents?
d) who are you going to see?
e) is security that lax at a major port like Gatwick????
and so on.....
marymary100

[*] posted on 12-8-2016 at 13:53
Little girls only allowed out to study at school or attend the mosque see their friends with boyfriends, having a life. Along comes Sally Jones online telling them that they can marry and be the wives/widows of jihadis who are clearing sin from the world one country at a time. They did what seemed reasonable to them, having an adventure with little thought for the consequences to themselves and their families. Is it really any different to taking drugs, driving too fast or having sex with all and sundry at music festivals? Teenagers have brains which are not fully formed and research shows they find it really hard to imagine consequences.

However, if I were in the police I'd be looking VERY carefully at the family who have apparently been in contact the whole time she has been away.
LSemmens

[*] posted on 12-8-2016 at 13:22
waggyfinger norty katzy waveysmiley:D

BOT I do wonder at the situation that motivates such children to do such things. Either their families are radicals and need to be investigated, or their home situation is such that running away is a viable option and the family still needs to be investigated. Surely there are no other circumstances that would convince young people to pull such stunts.
Nimuae

[*] posted on 12-8-2016 at 11:35
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Originally posted by Katzy
If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat?

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Ouch, Katzy, let's not even go there !lips_sealed
Katzy

[*] posted on 12-8-2016 at 11:30
If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat?

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marymary100

[*] posted on 12-8-2016 at 08:29
As is the humanist one.
scholar

[*] posted on 12-8-2016 at 00:30
Is anyone really so stupid as to travel to join IS and not think they are risking death?

When they see militant Islamic jihadists cutting heads off people, do they think they are gentle, happy, loving people?


The New Testament faith is a better foundation for life.
marymary100

[*] posted on 11-8-2016 at 21:55
IS schoolgirl story


Quote:

One of three schoolgirls who left east London last year to join so-called Islamic State (IS) is believed to have been killed in an air strike in Syria, her family solicitor has said.

Kadiza Sultana was 16 when she left Bethnal Green along with two friends.

Her family's lawyer, Tasnime Akunjee, told BBC Newsnight they learned of her death in Raqqa a few weeks ago.

But he said they have not been able to independently confirm it because of the nature of information from Syria.

Mr Akunjee said she had grown disillusioned and wanted to leave IS and return to the UK but had been unable to do so.

He told the programme the family were "obviously devastated".

Mr Akunjee added: "There's nothing worse than finding out your sibling or family member's been killed and by all accounts she was a young girl with a very promising future - and it's a great loss to us all really.

"Every effort was made from the very beginning to avoid this fateful news and despite all efforts it's unfortunate that we find ourselves with the loss of a young life."

Kadiza Sultana and schoolfriends Shamima Begum and Amira Abase, both 15 at the time, flew from Gatwick to Turkey on 17 February 2015 after telling their parents they were going out for the day.

The Bethnal Green Academy pupils later entered Syria and were thought to be living in Raqqa, the self-styled capital of IS.

The three girls had been studying for their GCSEs at the school in Tower Hamlets, east London - where they have been described as "straight-A students".

A fourth girl from the school is believed to have travelled to Syria in December 2014.

Last year, a solicitor for the families said two of the girls had got married, without identifying which ones.

The Bethnal Green schoolgirls were among more than 800 Britons believed to have left the UK to join IS or other militant groups in Syria and Iraq,




I thought this inevitable.