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John_Little

[*] posted on 6-10-2017 at 06:58
Ticking things off- legitimately does make me feel good.
LSemmens

[*] posted on 6-10-2017 at 03:17
But then you are going to need checks and balances, it's easy enough to scratch something off a list to get the "reward" without actually doing the job. Cynic? Moi????shocked_yellow
JackInCT

[*] posted on 5-10-2017 at 11:07
Quote:
Originally posted by LSemmens
Of course, Jack, you realise that all the "photo" of a to do list will just be another thing that we ignore anyway.


You're right. Plan D--an image selection of "rewards"/aka positive reinforcements when the chore is completed.
LSemmens

[*] posted on 5-10-2017 at 08:11
Of course, Jack, you realise that all the "photo" of a to do list will just be another thing that we ignore anyway.
John_Little

[*] posted on 5-10-2017 at 07:37
Bring back real photo albums, I say!
JackInCT

Depicts mood of post posted on 4-10-2017 at 23:28
Quote:
Originally posted by Quaver
It is on a table in our bedroom, unplugged, but right next to an empty wall socket, always ready, but never on:(


I sure hope this comment doesn't get me banned from this forum, B_U_U_U_U_T have you ever considered using it as a visual 'todo' list?, i. e., create a list of things that need doing in some word processing program, and perhaps, next to each chore who has that "assignment", and then make a screen capture image file of the text, etc.,. [spreadsheets also make very good chore lists with all sorts of bells and whistles re eye catching candy re color, font, font size, etc.,----just saying!!!!]. This "suggestion" is the digital equivalent of a paper Post It. OR--I just can't seem to help myself--multiple screen captures of lists of things that need doing, and if the frame can do the tech, a slide show of everyone's chores with some images of them either doing chores, OR goofing off when they should be working, OR something like a pix of the grass when it needs cutting, AND NO NAME on it who's responsible for resolving 'the matter'.

I hope everyone who reads this post of mind can bring themselves to realize that it was done with the best of intentions. :) :) :)
Quaver

[*] posted on 4-10-2017 at 22:54
We were given one as a wedding gift, with the wedding photos on a SD card.
We used to put it on when guests came, but stopped after 6 months or so.

It is on a table in our bedroom, unplugged, but right next to an empty wall socket, always ready, but never on:(

Our TV has a USB port for photos, but we've never used it either (didn't have a spare USB stick).

Back in the Windows 98 days, we used to have a screeensaver which was linked to a folder where we can put our photos.
That was most used out of the three:)
JackInCT

[*] posted on 4-10-2017 at 13:40
Quote:
Originally posted by LSemmens
I actually have a computers attached to various TVs around the house, so the screen saver slide show could be set to work on any of those.


Indeed that's a very good option since at least, in most homes, there is at least one TV in a central location, i. e., where what is showing on the slide show will be visible in a glance sort of way.

Plan B for the TV option, for those who don't have it connected to a computer, is that some TVs have a USB input port and depending on the tech for the USB port (vids and/or only images) you could download whatever via a computer to the flash driver and the plug it into the USB port. HOWEVER image resolution for still images (and probably image file type) will likely have to be tested out re the quality of what's displayed on the screen, I. e., there's likely going to be minimum image file size/type that anything below the minimum won't look so good.

Plan C (OH yes) there's all kinds of alternatives to digital frames, is that if the TV is connected to a DVD player, you could play a disc. There's the burn your own DIY disc AND, as I mention earlier, purchase a commercially made disc. For those into fine arts, it seems that a great many world class museums have created their own DVDs of their collections. I looked at quite a few museum websites and I could NOT find any (at all) with a demo download, I. e., apparently you have no idea at all what you will be getting when you purchased a DVD.

I got the idea for fine art museum DVDs from the company who makes that very expensive digital frame and they suggested that the frame could be used as an alternative to a physical painting, and changed daily/whatever. They NEGELECTED (I wonder why???) to mention that in a museum the paintings come in all sorts of physical sizes and their frame, of course, is just one size.

For my tastes, the era of perfected VR will be the way to visit a museum that you will likely never be able to visit; the physical structure of any museum, and the way the curator has mounted the various collections relative to one another, is an important part of a museum, and only with VR could you duplicate such an experience.
LSemmens

[*] posted on 4-10-2017 at 03:18
I actually have a computers attached to various TVs around the house, so the screen saver slide show could be set to work on any of those.
JackInCT

[*] posted on 3-10-2017 at 14:49
Quote:
Originally posted by LSemmens
I have several digital frames, all in a cupboard somewhere....


Your experience seems to be a common occurrence.

I tried out using my PC yesterday with 3-4 of the "concepts" that I mentioned. Using my PC as one is a very cost effective choice; there is one of these gadgets out there by a company called Memento which offers on Amazon a 35 in. 4K Smart Digital Photo Frame for a mere $900 (do you really think I made a typo on the price?).

It seems to me that using a PC's monitor IF it's located in a 'central' location is the "best" idea as an alternative option for those times anyone would otherwise be putting the PC into a hibernate mode. My prime media player, and I would imagine that most have these features, can be set up in full screen (without any menu bar, etc., visible) and in a continuous loop mode--it would probably take some trial and error with the media player's gear to get that kind of a display. It kind of reminds me of a screen saver for some reason (one of my tests was a download of a uTube very high res video of an aquarium--fish tank screen savers have been around FOR HOW LONG??? I opted to not have audio, but that can be set up in some different ways to include not having an audio track embedded in the slide show's program file creation process--my freeware slideshow was a piece of cake to run.

Today's test is a new idea: 360 degree panoramic mountain top 'image' very high res scenic view in a continuous loop mode, and it can be set up full screen [the view on my monitor's screen goes round and round forever (these professional photogs who create these kinds of files can do a great job of giving you the feeling that you are actually standing on the mountain top/wherever)--I have yet to figure out if I can create a playlist of several such files, i. e., show them in succession, and when the last is done, start all over again automatically. Lots of free 360 degree panoramic stuff downloads out there in a variety of genres such as seaside/lakes/winter scenery/and the list goes on and on.

Off Belay, Anyone???
LSemmens

[*] posted on 3-10-2017 at 08:58
I have several digital frames, all in a cupboard somewhere. I have real pictures spread around the house. I did, for a time, have a slide show set up on one or more of my 'puters for a time but, even that has gone bye byes. Might be good on an office desk, somewhere.
JackInCT

[*] posted on 2-10-2017 at 17:19
As someone who has never seen, and much more importantly lived with, one of these digital frames, I came up with this idea to ALMOST replicate what having one would be like, i. e., whether I would ever want to spend any money for one (and avoid discarding it).

My basic plan would be to use my desktop PC monitor as a digital frame during those moments when I wasn't using my PC, i. e., as I wandered about my quarters. Not the same as being on a wall/wherever, but good enough, location wise, to give me a first hand experience.

So I could use my PC monitor with at least 3 choices, which would include the option having an audio track turned on/off,

(1) A full screen ONE still image file (perhaps a photograph, whatever). In each of these choices the image resolution of the file is critical, i. e., it has to be high enough to avoid pixelation, blurring, etc.,

(1B) A full screen ONE still photograph image file but with several image files in a designated folder that would be rotated probably daily,

(2) A full screen slide show in an autoloop mode. Freeware slide show software are common, and an end user can select everything (such as fade, zoom in, etc.,) to include one of the likely most important variables and that is the interval between each slide (and most have the ability to incorporate an audio track).
Many slide shows have a batch loading feature, so after you've acculmulated however many you want, they can all be loaded in one fell swoop. Ditto re looping.

Obviously images can be downloaded from the web, but care needs to taken to ensure adequate resolution. There are websites particularly among professional photographers with their high res photos that can be copied/downloaded. As an example, my recent post of Wim van den Heever would yield a goodly amount of choices if his work is to your liking.

(3) There are all kinds of vids on uTube that can be downloaded (for viewing on a media player, and most have a full screen and loop feature) for free such as "environmental"/nature walks/de facto slide shows [but you won't be able to select the interval between the pixs]--many uTube vids have a HD settings choice and while that setting takes longer to download, the resolution is better.

I've already tried a downloaded nature uTube slide show vid in a full screen continous loop mode (muted audio), and I really didn't have to force myself to glance at my monitor whenever I walked by.

There are DVDs out there for sale with huge numbers of images in any 'category/genre' that you can imagine. You likely could put one in your optical disk drive, and just go with that via your 'go to' default media player playlist option [I don't know what media players would give you an interval option between each file].

From a saving money perspective, my one experience with the slide show vid is OK, and the price is right but that plus rating is also based on the fact that my monitor is in a central location.

A home made slide show will be next on my list of home made demos.
John_Little

[*] posted on 2-10-2017 at 09:10
Bought my parents one and it was inly used on the day. We've got one too that I think our kids bought us and it's on top of the wardrobe.

I think it's the power supply that stops it being convenient. The wire isn't long enough to hang on the wall and it has to be near a socket or use an extension lead. Nice idea but not user friendly.
JackInCT

[*] posted on 1-10-2017 at 23:45
Quote:
Originally posted by marymary100
It could potentially replace the multitude of family photos I have on the piano.


BUT there is a gestalt to all those photos on your piano that you wouldn't have on a digital frame unless you turned them in a collage. There is a unity and connection/bond that jumps out at you when you view them as a kind of panorama of kin; it's likely something similar to the group photo at a family reunion in a landscape mode that as your eyes sweep across from one end to the other, all kinds of memories, however jumbled, including the ghosts, strike some sort of a responsive cord as to how you came to exist.
marymary100

[*] posted on 1-10-2017 at 22:35
It could potentially replace the multitude of family photos I have on the piano.
JackInCT

[*] posted on 1-10-2017 at 22:26
Quote:
Originally posted by marymary100
....They never used it but were not very computer literate....


From what I have read on this subject these digital frames can become for anyone willing to put the work into it, a full fledged multimedia experience (WE all remember multimedia, don't we???) or a simple one to one, next to no work involved, replacement of any photo in a picture frame; and of course anything in between.

Multiple pixs can be run in a never ending loop (and some of these devices have a setting that if your turn off the light in a room, it has a sensor that will 'know' that and it shuts down (it's presuming that it's night time/bed time and everyone is asleep).

Once again: even if I made the effort to create a full blown, elaborate multimedia experience, its only value is IF I watch it (and stop whatever else I was doing), and of course that's not practical. AND I could just as well create such an "experience" on my PC via any number of freeware programs, and the gear to do that/view that is already paid for.

So I posted this topic to see if this is one of those digital devices that is a solution in search of a problem, and perhaps someone on this board has found a use for it that I've not considered.

There is a defunct website that sold one of their digital frames along with a subscription to a world class museum that basically had the digital frame set up as a kind of slide show and each pix was a high res of its exhibits. That caught my attn as a kind of digital age painting/photo on the wall that was ever changing. BUT then again, no one is going to sit there watching this frame all day long no matter how exquisite the museum's collection is.
marymary100

[*] posted on 1-10-2017 at 18:34
I bought one for my folks maybe 5 years ago? They never used it but were not very computer literate. I had hoped my mother whose eyesight was fading might have found it helpful. Unfortunately it didn't work for her. They are probably much better now though.
JackInCT

[*] posted on 1-10-2017 at 17:28
I'm posting this topic for some feedback re end users personal experience on this board who use/have used/seen this tech.

Digital photo frame tech has been around for some time, to include some that also play [recorded] music and vids [and some can connect with Cloud fileservices, and the features go on and on]. And their prices vary from relatively cheap to very expensive.

And search engine hits on this tech to include uTube are very large; and there are some pretty good/honest reviews on uTube.

I have only seen uTube vids of this tech, and to my "eye" a digital photo frame is a very different experience than watching TV, or viewing a slide show on my desktop PC. And I'm pretty sure that it's not quite the same as seeing a pix in a frame/painting/whatever hung on the wall (or some are sized for a desk/table).

While viewing one's digital files does NOT necessarily mean that you have to have it set up in a slide show mode, I am wondering if it will wind up as a huge distraction (and become an annoyance) in whatever room it's set up in. And from the hits, it appears that the resolution of each digital pix is a significant issue as to how it then winds up appearing on the photo frame (pixelation, etc., issues) which in turn, depending on how fussy you are, will require removal of pixs that don't "look right".

Somehow or other digital eye candy is in a different realm that ma & pa's still portrait studio pix hanging on the wall.