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scholar

[*] posted on 9-1-2010 at 16:33
To be fair, most of the posts make no mention of the U.S.

Most of the Earth which some claim is warming because of people burning fuel is not the U.S.

Most of the governments pushing for limits on carbon emission are not the U.S.

The British judge who pointed out nine areas in the film where Gore falsely asserted his interpretations as if they were facts is not American.
LSemmens

[*] posted on 9-1-2010 at 12:56
To be fair, I've moved this to US politics, as, although it has global ramifications, much of the "discussions" tend to be US centric.
marymary100

[*] posted on 9-1-2010 at 07:02
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However, in parts of the film, Gore presents evidence and arguments which do not accord with mainstream scientific opinion. This guidance points out, on a scene by scene basis, the areas where further input will be required from teaching staff. This guidance is designed to help teaching staff encourage their pupils to assess the validity and credibility of different information sources and explore different points of view so as to form their own opinions.
Not quite the same as "falsehoods" scholar. More a case of forcing teachers to present both sides of the argument which is fair enough.

If only other people were forced to give both sides of their arguments too.
scholar

[*] posted on 9-1-2010 at 01:46
Marymary, I do not remember which source originally brought it to my attention.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/7037671.stm
is a BBC account.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2007/oct/11/climatechange
is a Guardian article which lists all nine problems the judge identified..

I found these and many more references in Google with "British judge" and "An Inconvenient Truth" If you want to go there and look for mention of it by a newspaper you prefer, there may be something.:)
giron

[*] posted on 8-1-2010 at 22:02
Yet another unanswered question, they certainly seem to be mounting up, don't they?
marymary100

[*] posted on 8-1-2010 at 21:52
So, still no source?
John_Little

[*] posted on 21-12-2009 at 09:25
Probably on a Global Warming Denial Site.
marymary100

[*] posted on 21-12-2009 at 07:12
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Originally posted by scholar


I remember reading that Al Gore's movie had a number of lies in it that were so glaring, that a British judge ruled that schools which use his movie for instruction must identify a number of the falsehoods, specifically.
I don't remember reading that. Source?
scholar

[*] posted on 21-12-2009 at 02:48
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Originally posted by Daz
Quote:
Originally posted by delanti

My question is, do you think Al Gore stands to make any money by promoting Global Warming?waveysmiley


Why is that a problem if he does? Just following the American capitalist objectives, surely?

As for your links etc. Isn't that exactly what investment companies do? Invest in businesses they think with a bit of backing, usually a capital injection, can make the business grow, be more successful, and then the investment backers reap a greater return on their original investment. I don't see this issue....?
If a person really has an idea for a genuine improvement that people shall willingly pay for, that is fine.

If a person has nothing of benefit, but promotes a hoax and tells lies to cheat people out of their money, either by fooling them or by getting the government to coerce them, that is quite another thing.

I remember reading that Al Gore's movie had a number of lies in it that were so glaring, that a British judge ruled that schools which use his movie for instruction must identify a number of the falsehoods, specifically.
delanti

[*] posted on 20-12-2009 at 19:14
It always seems to come down to the money don't it? I am sure you have heard the term Cap and Tax in regard to carbon emissions in the US. The Government wants to install this program on Companies here.

If you read the bottom link on Maurice Strongs bio you will find this little tidbit.

"Americans should be worried by the Commission's recommendations: for instance, that some UN activities be funded through taxes on foreign-exchange transactions and multinational corporations. Economist James Tobin estimates that a 0.5 per cent tax on foreign-exchange transactions would raise $1.5 trillion annually -- nearly equivalent to the U.S. federal budget.

It also recommended that "user fees" might be imposed on companies operating in the "global commons." Such fees might be collected on international airline tickets, ocean shipping, deep-sea fishing, activities in Antarctica, geostationary satellite orbits, and electromagnetic spectrum. But the big enchilada is carbon taxes, which would be levied on all fuels made from coal, oil, and natural gas. "A carbon tax," the report deadpans, ". . . would yield very large revenues indeed." Given the UN's record of empire-building and corruption, Cato's Ted Carpenter warns: "One can only imagine the degree of mischief it could get into if it had independent sources of revenue." waveysmiley
John Barnes

[*] posted on 20-12-2009 at 18:32
Global warming? we have two feet of snow here and it is below freezing
we could do with a bit of global warming here, It is all a con trick to extract more money from gullible nations and put more tax on everything.jmb
victor

[*] posted on 20-12-2009 at 14:59
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Originally posted by delanti
by the chance for big profits from companies that stand to profit from government assistance funds. waveysmiley


Hit the nail on the head there.
delanti

[*] posted on 20-12-2009 at 14:37
I makes me wonder if his enthusiasm to halt global warming is driven by his concern for the world and mankind or by the chance for big profits from companies that stand to profit from government assistance funds. waveysmiley
Daz

[*] posted on 20-12-2009 at 11:13
Quote:
Originally posted by delanti

My question is, do you think Al Gore stands to make any money by promoting Global Warming?waveysmiley


Why is that a problem if he does? Just following the American capitalist objectives, surely?

As for your links etc. Isn't that exactly what investment companies do? Invest in businesses they think with a bit of backing, usually a capital injection, can make the business grow, be more successful, and then the investment backers reap a greater return on their original investment. I don't see this issue....?
delanti

[*] posted on 20-12-2009 at 03:11
HARA a Company: Hara Environmental and Energy Management (EEM) on-demand software enables organizations to identify and implement sustainability initiatives across stakeholders to increase operational efficiency, maximize shareholder value and mitigate risk. Hara customers are identifying millions of dollars in savings from energy, water and waste abatement strategies while reducing their carbon emissions.

HARA Website

If you click on About Us at the top of their website it takes you to an overview page. On the left there is a list, click on Investors. On the Investors page the Company Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers is listed and at the bottom of their profile is a link to their webpage, click on that. At the bottom of their webpage note that Al Gore and his Company Generation Investment Management are partners of KPCB which is just an investment Company.

Also on HARA's web site note that their CEO has advised Obama on Global warming issues.

My question is, do you think Al Gore stands to make any money by promoting Global Warming?waveysmiley