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LSemmens

[*] posted on 28-3-2008 at 11:04
As DW has said, these rules were posted in RSE only as a reminder of the ethos of KF. Religion, Sport and Politics are highly emotive subjects. Like Janet, I like good debate. Also like Janet, I don't expect you to agree with me, but I do expect the same respect for my beliefs as you would expect for your own. We can have a good discussion, where each may modify their views as a result but, at the end of the day, still agree to differ.

A good example of this here is my viewpoint on Roman Catholicism has been challenged and changed owing to discussions that have occurred here. Having never been a Roman Catholic, much of their ritual and dogma was a mystery to me. I certainly have a healthier respect of that sect than earlier as a result.
janet

[*] posted on 27-3-2008 at 15:54
It's for the moderators to decide - I certainly didn't have those posts in mind... or many others. It was a general point.

I do have a real bug bear about people telling others that they can not be or are not Christians - but thankfully that doesn't happen here often.
scholar

[*] posted on 27-3-2008 at 15:51
It has just ocurred to me that my comments about what Jeremiah Wright has said in sermons and writtings might run afoul of the rules, as Janet has spoken of them. I refer to parts of Wright's ideas as bigotry and ill will.

I do sometimes speak harshly about ideas, but I stick to the ideas, not the person who holds them.
janet

[*] posted on 27-3-2008 at 15:35
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Originally posted by John_Little
Well, who am I to say, but it does appear to be specially emphasised here, probably to encourage people to - explore more.

It may also explain why I've heard a number of people cry "foul" from time to time. Or, at least, it would if it was in this forum.


What people cry foul at - well, what I'm likely to cry foul at - is not, "I disagree with your beliefs". That's fair game - posting in this forum means that whatever you post is probably going to be discussed, possibly in a lively fashion. That's what the forum is *for*.

What is likely to get me calling foul is, instead, "Your ideas are stupid", "You are stupid/insane/evil for having those beliefs", etc. The same would hold for "You can't be a Christian/Muslim/Asatru/whatever if you believe THAT"...

There's a difference between the two, and it's one that is sometimes difficult to find... and one that I see less and less both on and off the web, which saddens me. It's entirely possible to have a lively, good debate that does not descend into personal remarks.
Dreamweaver

[*] posted on 27-3-2008 at 15:29
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Originally posted by John_Little
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Folder RSE Forum
Discuss your Religious, Spiritual and Ethical views here. But please remember, just because someone does not follow your views, they are entitled to their place in the scheme of things. Play the game. not the player. As Karl would say "Lets keep it civil heh!


Couldn't help noticing that this appears to be the only forum with the above code of conduct.

To be honest, I dont always notice which forum I'm in because I just click on the "Activity" button.

Had I known that the above rule applied to this forum, I may have held back a bit on my opinions because, the rules is the rules.

But sometimes they might need to be pointed out to newcomers.


No one expects you to hold beck your opinions John, every one is entitled to them.
I did find RSE was/is quite an evocative subject and needed an extra reminder when I put the forum back up.
As Janet says it does just about sums up the KF way...
John_Little

[*] posted on 27-3-2008 at 15:25
Well, who am I to say, but it does appear to be specially emphasised here, probably to encourage people to - explore more.

It may also explain why I've heard a number of people cry "foul" from time to time. Or, at least, it would if it was in this forum.
janet

[*] posted on 27-3-2008 at 15:11
I'd say that just about sums up the rules of KF all the way along the line...?
John_Little

[*] posted on 27-3-2008 at 15:01
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Folder RSE Forum
Discuss your Religious, Spiritual and Ethical views here. But please remember, just because someone does not follow your views, they are entitled to their place in the scheme of things. Play the game. not the player. As Karl would say "Lets keep it civil heh!


Couldn't help noticing that this appears to be the only forum with the above code of conduct.

To be honest, I dont always notice which forum I'm in because I just click on the "Activity" button.

Had I known that the above rule applied to this forum, I may have held back a bit on my opinions because, the rules is the rules.

But sometimes they might need to be pointed out to newcomers.