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scholar

[*] posted on 17-4-2011 at 15:13
Quote:
Originally posted by marymary100
Which doesn't mean that future terrorists wouldn't adopt that personna scholar if it made their passage through security easier, which is rather the point of not relying solely on profiling.
You or I might imagine that would happen, with the result that terrorists would get past Israeli security methods.

But then, we don't have to depend on imagination, because Israeli security methods are used in the real world, and we can see the real results. How many Israeli planes have had bombers slip past their security?
Faolan

[*] posted on 17-4-2011 at 11:18
I think this says it all:

http://www.lossofprivacy.com/index.php/2011/04/just-below-the-surface/
Redwolf5150

[*] posted on 17-4-2011 at 11:11
You are so, so naive, Scholar.
marymary100

[*] posted on 17-4-2011 at 10:26
Which doesn't mean that future terrorists wouldn't adopt that personna scholar if it made their passage through security easier, which is rather the point of not relying solely on profiling.
scholar

[*] posted on 17-4-2011 at 09:33
Quote:
Originally posted by marymary100
You seem to think there are no terrorists who are white or elderly. If I were a leader of a terrorist group I would use people from the "exempt from searches" group, even if that was a child or an elderly white woman.
No, I don't think that. Reread my post, and you will notice that I say the passengers should be treated as the Israeli security treats theirs. The Israelis focus their attention on people who give them reason to be suspicious. No one is exempt by virtue of belonging to any group.

Some American TSA agents make a point of devoting their time to giving thorough searches to people who do not need extra attention. I remember the Drudge Report included a story about a genuine Roman Catholic nun, with credentials and full identification, who was felt up by a TSA agent. How many American Roman Catholic nuns have attempted to crash or blow up airplanes? NONE!
marymary100

[*] posted on 17-4-2011 at 08:57
You seem to think there are no terrorists who are white or elderly. If I were a leader of a terrorist group I would use people from the "exempt from searches" group, even if that was a child or an elderly white woman.
scholar

[*] posted on 17-4-2011 at 01:42
1--I think security people should do like the Israeli security--look for suspicious people, and focus on them.

2--In the US, airports were supposed to be able to withdraw from the government security system, and implement their own. Recently, when airports attempted to do so, they were told they were welcome to apply for independent security, but that the Obama administration would not give permission for any others to become independent. So, most of the US is stuck with government workers who seem to make a point of searching old white women who are not strong enough to fight back, as if they wish to prove they have no prejudice against Arab Muslims or Persian Muslims as possible bombers.

So long as the US government is stupid enough to weigh down our economy by making invasive, unpleasant, machine-expensive searches on passengers who are not really terrorist suspects, the terrorists are getting the delight of ongoing economic harm. This has been true under Republican and Democrat administrations alike (it has gotten worse lately, but that is only because it took time to implement the see-through-clothing machines).
Quaver

[*] posted on 16-4-2011 at 10:42
I think it's fine, I always had pocket full of stuff when I went on planes, and got frisked all the time when I was young.

All my family will just laugh, it being a common occurancefish_slap

Come to think of it, I was frisked twice this month alreadyroffle
It was the hair clips. I swear, the machine got more sensitive recentlywaggyfinger
marymary100

[*] posted on 16-4-2011 at 08:02
Child frisked - should everyone be subjected to pat downs? Would security be compromised if some were exempt?